I m afraid I don’t feel sorry for anyone who flouts the law or flouts sensible precautions and I also don’t like the idea of crowdfunding why should others pay for your stupidity and get you out of a pickle
His poor family must be besides themself
I know people who cut corners and travel without adequate insurance and I think they are foolhardy
I probably won’t go on another holiday overseas but that’s just how it is and I have to accept it I went to Barcelona last year and declared everything, tablets, past history etc I would never ever travel without being fully insured even when I go to visit my daughter in Ireland I m on the cusp of 80 and it all goes up then doesn’t it
I didn’t know about a GHIC card where do you apply to them from I always had a European one
Three of my grand kids over the years have been ill while travelling one needing hospital treatment and thankfully they were fully insured
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Travel insurance - a cautionary tale
(90 Posts)From todays DT
Malcolm Stocker, a retired pub landlord, 68, has been in intensive care in a hospital in Icmeler for almost a month after being diagnosed with pneumonia while on holiday with his girlfriend.
His family say he had several pre-existing conditions and was refused medical insurance before the two-week trip, but decided to go anyway.
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Well what did they expect?
You can get a GHIC card on the UGov website, it’s free and an easy application form.
He didn’t choose to travel without insurance he couldn’t get insured - yes he did!
Whether he couldn’t or whether he wasn’t willing to pay whatever he was quoted
he chose to travel without insurance
Spot on.
This is very interesting. There was a heated discussion in this household about this last year. My husband thought it was ok, (it’s only a week), I was adamant that it was not a risk I would take.
We were about to go to Cyprus for one week to see family, most insurers wouldn’t even quote for us and just refused. Then we ‘got lucky’ , coughed up and went. The cover cost more than the whole trip.
We then asked about cover for Australia - £2k minimum, single trip only. Canada was going to be more than double that, again, single trip. So we were sad and thought that once you get over 70 travel is financially impossible., unless you are lucky enough to be rich.
Then someone mentioned packaged bank accounts and thanks to Martin Lewis’s website, we were able to finally get reasonably priced cover.
We too use the FlexPlus account with Nationwide, specifically for the travel insurance, as it’s multi-trip and worldwide. By opting for a joint account it covers us both if we decide to do solo trips independently of each other.
We did the full medical screening questionnaire and paid a bit extra as we are both over 70 and have several health conditions (DH has had a stroke previously, high blood pressure, COPD etc etc; I have AF, several autoimmune diseases, etc etc.) - but the eventual premium was nothing like the quotes we’d had before, if we could even get a quote: most companies refused us cover. It came to less than we’d paid for one week in Cyprus.
What the insurers told us was, they wanted to know everything, even the seemingly unimportant things, they were not nearly so concerned about what it was as not knowing. So that made it easy (if lengthy).
So we happily went to Australia this spring and are going to Canada and USA this autumn. While we still can, we will.
I haven’t read the article about the poor gentleman stuck in Turkey, but these reports are becoming a common occurrence. I hope things resolve for him soon, whatever the rights or wrongs of it.
westendgirl
I wonder how many have done this successfully.
The price of travel insurance is exorbitant. I used to have mine with my bank account but when I turned 80 that stopped. I have been quoted costs for the insurance more than the cost of the holiday. it is very disheartening and of course we no longer have ehic .
Yes we still have a health card! GHIC
People forget that we are still European just not in the union.
However, I would never go abroad without insurance. We went to Amsterdam recently and it cost us £17 for the two of us.
My Daughter & extended family went to Cyprus the end of May & she told me a few days ago that they didn't bother with insurance. I was horrified, I am so glad I didn't know at the time. They did have the health cards each which I suppose is damage limitation.
Insurance cost her Nan & Grandad £300
We had a friend who, when taking out holiday insurance, denied he had any pre existing conditions. He had HBP, high cholesterol, and was pre-diabetic. His argument was that it made the insurance too high. When we pointed out to him that if he, for example, tripped over and broke a bone, in some countries they would take his bp, and this would go back to his insurance company and he would be found out he poo pood it. Until he and his wife went to Malaysia. His wife slipped over and broke her wrist, for some unfathomable reason this required a 2 night stay in hospital. Fortunately, she did not have any pre existing conditions so the insurance company paid out. Had it been him, they wouldn't have done. He tells us that he has now declared his conditions. Stupid man!
He chose to travel knowing he couldn’t get insurance as he was such a risk, but he chose to do it and now he has caused his poor son untold grief. What father does that, who did he think would fund his hospital bill?
I will be 79 in July, and so have one year left to travel before the insurance becomes so excessive I cannot afford to go anywhere. I have travelled across the world and lived abroad etc and have always made sure I have the appropriate insurance that was needed. My father worked in insurance and so we were aware of the various things, so for example if you are going on a cruise you need to inform the insurance people and you will pay more than if you were land based etc. Also I have given full details of any illness or medication I take but make sure that if I have even a minor illness after I have given all the details I ring and tell them so that that can be added to the policy if required. If you dont do that you give the insurance a get out clause . So another thing that some people do not realize is that you need to have your prescription with you to show if you are on any medication when you go abroad. Different countries have bans on various drugs etc., so you could have a medication for a condition that in another country was banned. By carrying your prescription you can prove that the medication you have with you is prescribed for you. Also if there is a problem you can then show the doctor in a hospital the list and they will be able to check it for any possible side effects etc. I am also very careful about where I keep my tablets etc. I will make sure that I have a weeks amount in my handbag, then further amounts carried in the cases , so that if I had two cases there would be some in each , should a case go missing when you arrive at your destination. Having a weeks surply on me, means that if all the luggage disappears I can go to a doctors or hospital and have time to sort further amounts without getting into a panic or spoiling my holiday. My view is that I do what I can to make sure I am safe and sensible whilst away. If something happens then I have done what I could to avoid a problem and if it occurs then I am prepared to get help. When my husband and son were at home the last check ups consisted of passport, money, medication. Again when my husband was alive we used to have a"swap" so I had usually 3 days of his medication and he did the same with mine. Again that just covered problems like luggage not turning up. Of course we had our own medication for a week too but this just was an added safeguard. I do get extremely annoyed about the over 80 rule and see it just as they want to get as much money as they can from you. If is fine that they check medical details for all passengers, but age does not come into it in that way. I know that I do a lot of things that someone 20 years younger does not do , so the fact that I have a clean licence and am happy to drive anywhere , and a younger person I know would not be happy even driving on the motorway in this country, so the age does not count, it should be on your ability to fulfill tasks and the proof such as clean driving licence.
maytime2
Westend Girl. Nationwide still offers insurance to people aged eighty and over. You do not have to open a current account, a savings account will suffice. Relatives of mine have taken up this offer.
I would like to say that one has to be scrupulous in being truthful when applying for travel insurance. I know of someone who suffered a bleed on the brain whilst on holiday, they had insurance but had not declared that they were on blood pressure tablets. The insurance company refused to pay out.
I think you will find that Nationwide only offers travel insurance for over 70s on its Flex Plus Account and you need to pay a premium over 70 and also declare any pre existing conditions.
This may still be good value of course, but it’s important to know that it only is available on the paid for Flex account if over 70.
I think it may be different on other N/W accounts for under 70s.
Sorry Felx Plus account over 70.
I paid £95 for travel insurance to take my Mum ( who was 85 at the time) to Canada for 3 weeks....I thought that was pretty good ...was expecting more .
LOUISA1523
I paid £95 for travel insurance to take my Mum ( who was 85 at the time) to Canada for 3 weeks....I thought that was pretty good ...was expecting more .
That is amazing.
I paid nearly £1000 for four days in New York and I was 63 years old. It cost more than the actual holiday.
Do your mum not have any medical conditions?
I pay about £20 a month travel insurance through my bank. I paid a bit more at the outset for being over 70.
I have no plans to travel abroad in the near future so should probably cancel it. Insurance companies rely on those of us who are laissez-faire .
I do wonder what would happen if I actually needed to make a claim as my track record for claims on my house insurance has been dismal.
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