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absentgrana Sat 09-Jul-11 13:35:19

I think we may all have had rather more royalty on the television than is comfortable. It seems to be getting sycophantic to say the least, but perhaps some people really do enjoy the coverage. Whether there's too much of the most recently married couple or not, I do wish that presenters would stop referring to the Duchess of Cambridge as Kate Middleton. They used to do the same thing with the late Princess of Wales and called her Lady Di.

jangly Wed 20-Jul-11 17:49:02

Yes she does. Have a little bit of human kindness and forgiveness. She hasn't done anything in her personal life that loads of others have done. She is human, and so is Charles.

jangly Wed 20-Jul-11 17:49:26

haven't done

jangly Wed 20-Jul-11 17:49:57

I'm glad it doesn't cost 5p to put these messages on.

Elegran Wed 20-Jul-11 17:50:10

I'm not sure deserving it comes into it. If she is the legitimate wife of the Prince of Wales, then she must be the Princess of Wales? It is not a title given as a prize for good conduct. If Miss Jones marries Mr Smith, then she becomes Mrs Smith, whatever anyone thinks of her personally.

goldengirl Wed 20-Jul-11 20:09:17

It's not the person its what the Queen stands for - this tiny woman embodying our country's history. That is why I respect her. I find it hard to feel the same way about Charles, but William has certainly got that 'something' which engenders respect for his position. Camilla? I'm sure she's a very nice person, and I think she and Charles are right for each other, but that is as far as it goes for me.

crimson Wed 20-Jul-11 20:47:08

Can't help but feel every time I see a photo of The Duchess of Cambridge flashing her [Diana's] engagement ring there's a point being made and I think to myself 'yes William, I still remember your mum'. I do have , however, total respect for the Queen and her devotion to our country. Charles and Diana should never have married, but they did so to produce an heir to the throne. And I'm very proud of William. Can't believe I'm saying this as I've never been a royalist. Must be me age.

absentgrana Thu 21-Jul-11 13:45:06

Elegran There's an interesting thought. "If she is the legitimate wife of the Prince of Wales…" When the act that made it possible to marry in a Register Office became law, the royal family – at least the immediate members of the monarch's family – were very specifically excluded. This matter was raised at the time of the P of W's marriage, but was brushed aside. However, they had got things wrong to begin with because they were originally intending to marry somewhere that didn't have a licence – would that have been Windsor Castle? What an interesting constitutional dilemma would arise if it should turn out that they're not legally married after Charles has been crowned king and she queen.

Elegran Thu 21-Jul-11 13:59:22

That would be interesting.

It may occur to them at some point to have a quiet church wedding to seal that loophole (as the actress said to the bishop!). They may have to wait until Camilla's ex is dead though. don't know what the situation is on that.

Of course, the Prince Regent found it OK to marry dynastically without waiting until Mrs Fitzherbert was dead, or even divorced.

Stansgran Sat 23-Jul-11 14:53:08

am so glad elegran that i am not the only one who points out that the royals lost out financially when the took to the Civil list and when the details crop up each year the newspapers cleverly forget to mention how much they would have had if they had legally kept it

Elegran Sat 23-Jul-11 14:56:15

Yes, £210.7 million is quite a lot to contribute to the economy. Selective history at work.

pinkprincess Sat 23-Jul-11 20:09:07

I feel something every time I see the Duchess of Cambridge flashing Diana's ring as well Crimson. I dont think it was a good idea for Prince William to give it to her as an engagement ring, he should have just given it to her as a ''ordinary'' ring, now she seems to be flashing it in public all the time.That is just my opinion though others might be alright about it.

absentgrana Sat 23-Jul-11 20:43:01

I don't know about "flashing" the ring – it's such a damn great vulgar thing, it's bound to catch the cameras. Family rings can be hugely special, but given the history, wasn't it a bit tactless to use it as an engagement ring?

Baggy Sat 23-Jul-11 21:45:44

I don't like the ring either but if Kate and William like it and its associations, why should we care? I also don't think Kate flashes it; the media twerps zoom in on it because they know people will be female doggy about it. hmm

pompa Wed 27-Jul-11 19:55:29

Went all the way to Sandringham today, suffered a numb bum on a coach, and Charles & Camilla didn't search us out sad

Nonu Sat 20-Apr-13 12:20:56

Read kate is moving in with Mum , for a while after the birth .

Good idea , Nobody like Mum .

Bodes well for us that their family get on well .

sunshine

Deedaa Sat 20-Apr-13 22:08:18

It struck me today that we haven't heard much about the baby lately. At one time it seemed as if there was nothing else happening in the world! I'm sure the actual birth will be much more exciting if we haven't all been bored rigid by it beforehand.

I'm not sure what the problem is with Camilla? She seems to have a good relationship with the Queen now and William and Harry seem friendly enough with her. Surely they are the people who should have a problem with her and if they don't I can't see that it's anyone else's business.

goldengirl Sun 21-Apr-13 12:23:52

The DT seem to feature the Prince of Wales a great deal lately - almost daily in fact. Is there some significance in this do you suppose? Is the paper 'getting us ready' for the future?

Tegan Sun 21-Apr-13 12:32:24

I suppose my problem with Camilla is that I was in a marriage with three people and I sort of relate to her as being on a parr with the woman who brought misery to my life [and my childrens]. However, it has become more and more obvious that she and Charles should have been married all along but then we wouldn't have the great people that are William and Harry. I've always liked Prince Charles [not finding his wacky ideas wacky at all] but felt he treated Diana appallingly.

Nonu Sun 21-Apr-13 12:41:12

Dee that is perhaps why we haven"t heard a lot . Also I don"t suppose there is much to say at the moment .
She seems to okay now so that is good .

smile

MargaretX Sun 21-Apr-13 21:20:07

I think only aristocratic girls can take the title princess, Diana's father was an Earl. As to her doing so much for British fashion I haven't noticed any influence here in Germany. there are some lovely crown princesses in the Eurpean royal families, but they seldom have any influence on fashion.

Compared to her European counterparts Catherine leads a very boring, restricted life, and media attention won't help.

merlotgran Sun 21-Apr-13 21:36:14

Any girl who marries a prince can take the title princess but they have to be known by their husband's first name that's why Marie von Reibnitz is known as Princess Michael. Technically Kate is a princess but does not need to be known as Princess William as Duchess of Cambridge is her title. When William becomes Prince of Wales she will become Princess Catherine of Wales.

Eloethan Sun 21-Apr-13 21:40:59

I'm not a royalist and am tired of all the coverage that the royal family gets.

gillybob Mon 22-Apr-13 08:27:43

If what we are experiencing at the minute "is not hearing a lot Deedaa* pity help us when she goes into labour and the baby is finally born.

Grannybug Mon 22-Apr-13 08:51:32

Eloethangrin

cathy Mon 22-Apr-13 08:53:41

Lets just hope that this marriage is a genuine loving marriage and not a marriage of convenience and mutual amount of money in the bank ha ha