The Truth About Magaluf

There was a very similar sounding programme last night about a resort in Corfu. Horrible with regard to the drinking, but sickening in the attitude to casual sex. One young "lady" seemed to think it commendable that she had had casual twice in one night with 2 different young men, or "lads" as they seemed to insist on calling them. She did admit to not remembering too much about it as she was very drunk.

Another part was focussed on one particular "lad" who was part of a group of friend on holiday. It would seem that he had not been able to "shag" anyone so far, so on the last night his friend advised him to target the "bigger" girls (they had a name for them which I can't remember, but it wasn't complimentary) as they were usually more desparate and "up for it".

How very lovely.

Isn't it sad? - whatever happened to self-respect? I just thank my lucky stars that none of my DDs or their partners are anything like this.

I saw that too phoenix, it makes you despair doesn't it?

Despair and also rage, Ella , not just because of the girls attitude (yes, the "sexual revolution" that goes back to the 60's meant that women can "admit" to enjoying sex) but the whole damn casual treatment of the issue, down to the disregard for the ease with which STD's are spread, with no thought to the potential risk to fertility for both sexes, but as Mishap says, the issue of self respect. And I'm including the "lads" in this.

Have they stopped to think that being so desparate for a sexual encounter means that they "lower" their own so called standards? They should stop and think,"if that girl is not someone that I would like to go out with, am I not doing myself some sort of disservice or lowering myself by having sex with her?"

Not very well put, but hopefully you will understand what I mean.

Very well out actually phoenix I think the saying is ( at least here in the NE) that they see each other through beer goggles !

It really is depressing beyond belief isn't it? When I was at6 Art School in the 60's most of us could only afford to go out for a drink at the end of term and then it would only be a couple of drinks (a £5 a week grant didn't go very far) there were 3 or 4 people who could be relied on to get off their heads but they were definitely out of the ordinary and the rest of us were not tempted to copy them. The compulsion to get drunk is beyond me, I just can't see the attraction and when did it become so acceptable?

gillybob I know the saying! However the programme last night included a conversation before the chaps went on the drink, sort of at the planning stage, and it was a tactic decided on before they set off, so can't even say it was alcohol induced!

I didn't see the program phoenix but can imagine what it was like. Sadly I think many of the young people who go on these types of holidays (18-30 and the likes) go with the intention of having sex with as many people as possible and care nothing for the consequences. I guess it happens in many big cities here in the UK too and is only fuelled by the sun and the price of the cheap alcohol in places like Magaluf . Added to that of course the young girls are wearing almost nothing for most of the day and night and being away from home they are almost anonymous .

The thing that bothered me after watching that programme, is the lack of a sense of self-preservation from these youngsters, no perception of how vulnerable you are when you are really drunk, no thought re STDs (and sorry if this is even more depressing - the 'Erection Challenge' had people - strangers to each other - stripping off/performing sex acts with the audience watching - live porn?), liver damage, brain damage, the list of risks to personal safety is endless, I got drunk a few times when I discovered drink in my early 20s and I didn't like it. It frightened me and I never did it again. I can't understand why these seemingly intelligent young people of both sexes don't get that it is dangerous. The other thing that is really troubling is the locals in Magaluf do not get an ambulance service when these mega-parties are in full swing. That's why I can't understand why there is no protest. Here's a good example of someone who said no: in the weekend papers there was also a report of a young (22 year old) locksmith in Pamplona refusing the change the locks on houses where families have been evicted by the banks, so he (and his fellow locksmiths, he started a campaign) are refusing the assist the banks in carrying out their dirty work. A small protest perhaps in the scheme of things, but it makes the point.

The sad thing thing is grannyknot that the locals probably have no choice given the huge revenue that these young people bring into a very poor economy. Spain as a whole is in a dreadful state and by setting down rules and regulations the young people will simply holiday elsewhere (Falaraki etc) and spend their money there.

The other thing that often gets me is that many of these young people must save like crazy to have their holiday they pay over inflated prices to stay in usually 3rd rate grotty hotels, spend hundreds of pounds to attend nightclubs and parties just to literally p*ss or vomit their money away ! Also I fail to think how many come home with a lot more than they expected to and are first in line at the STD clinic upon their return.

One programme was called Kavos a once pretty fishing village I visited in Corfu many years ago. It's now been taken over by young British teens and is a positive Sodom. One really disgusting game was played on a so called 'booze cruise' - if a boy had sex with the same girl on three occasions he had to drink a pint of someone else's urine - and he did! I know I sound like an old f**t when I say this and I don't care - these people are going to have the most awful problems later in life. The sex with strangers and drinking until you drop is not doing your body and soul any good at all.
Who owns these clubs in these resorts that enable youngsters to drink like this? Where are the police stopping sexual acts in public? What on earth do the locals think about the British if they allow their young people to carry on like this? Someone is making an awful lot of money.

dorsetpenny I agree with you. And it's not being an old f*rt, it's about caring for yourself and your fellow humans. On another note, a Spanish colleague at work made me laugh by telling a group of us in conversation (she had 2 sons who had just left school and had asked for a gap year) that she had flatly refused to "fund you sitting on a beach somewhere in Thailand for a year stoned out of your skull. What do you think I am, stupid?" And that, I gather, was the end of that.

Grannyknot good for her and quite right too. I think a lot of parents have been very lax about discipline and have empowered their youngsters to behave badly. However, I khow a lot of gap year students who did very positive things with their year. I also know a lot of really well behaved decent young people - I work with them and had them. But seeing these programmes just fills me with dread as to how we are going to stop this binge drinking and general louche behaviour.
No amount of advertising the dangers seems to work. It's always the same theme with many teens 'it won't happen to me' like they think they'll never grow older - if they are lucky. What will they become and what awful regrets and recriminations they will have in the future. Sad very sad.

It does make one worry about the GC and whether they will be infected by this sort of behaviour.

These young people are usually away on holiday on their own for the first time, getting drunk is the norm at the weekends here in UK, when on holiday that seems to be extended to every night.

This kind of thing is common in some of the Spanish resorts but I also wonder how much of the behaviour was down to bravado in front of the cameras.

barrow although I agree some people 'ham it up' for the cameras, I think in tis case most of the partygoers couldn't give a toss, they seemed oblivious to being filmed, intent on whatever it is they were doing. And the people who are comatose on the sidewalk, definitely aren't displaying any bravado.

According to one of the youngsters I work with, we were discussing the Kavos programme, its the norm for a lot of young adults and teens to behave like this in these resorts. She went on a weeks holiday with a bunch of girls at the end of their uni career, they went to Magaluf and were horrified that it was even worse then it had been depicted. As she pointed out her group like to drink and have a laugh with the boys,' we're no angels', but the public sex and the amount of vomiting drunk people was awful. They ended up going to a quieter part of the resort with the older adults and families. The beaches were great so they had a good time.

Reading all your posts, the participants who go away on these sort of holidays and behave like this not only don't respect themselves but show enormous disrespect to the host countries who are often far more conservative than we are in the UK, they show us all up! I think anyone who requires medical assistance due to excessive drinking should be charged for it both abroad and at home.

I wonder if the sort of young people who go on such holidays come from backgrounds where they aren't taught to respect themselves and others and this sort of behaviour is the norm.

I'm trying to phrase this post without sounding snobby and sneery (is that a word?). I'm curious whether 'nicely brought up' young people would behave like that.

And before I get shouted down, I do know that 'upper class' yobs behave in the same way, but they can also be lacking in respect. Money or class doesn't mean that you are 'well brought up' Just expensively educated!

Am I getting in a tangle over this?!?

Grannyknot no wonder you chose not to watch it all,,Magaluf is a place were young people go to spend there whole holiday drinking, it really is a horrible place to go...as I am from London I know about it as it is talked about alot here...Any one sane should avoid the place.....

janthea, I think they are from backgrounds right across the spectrum, SOME of the fresher week students from the best universities seem to abandon any sense of decorum. I hate to sound like a left over from a bygone age, but where did self respect go?

BAnanas Exactly my point about self respect. My point was that, regardless of background or education, these young people seem to be lacking in respect and self respect.

You need a strong personality not to follow the crowd and that demands a secure upbringing whether rich or poor and whatever your class.

It is so distasteful and so sad.

However, one of my SILs gets thoroughly drunk a few times a year when he goes out with the "lads" - the rest of the time he is a model husband and father. I do not know what this is about - it may be culturally determined. But I do know that I do not like the idea of my GC having to step over him in the bathroom to get to the toilet. It is a total personality reversal and I am at a loss to excplain it as otherwise I hold him in very high regard.

would you believe it i have been to magaluf a few times the last time two and a half years ago with my late husband who was wheel chair bound ,all a can say i must of walked around with my eyes shut because i missed all the antics x