Archers Addicts 5 !!!!!

Some of us predicted the pregnancy on this thread a few pages back, but as time went by I thought we were wrong.

I think this will be a great storyline. Pat and Tony might just have a grandchild that's born to loving parents - even though we don't know how their relationship is going to pan out.

How will Helen cope with no longer being the centre of the universe?

I wasn't surprised because we get the Radio Times delivered by post and it comes very early - the Archers spiel in there gave the game away. I hope that you will appreciate my restraint in not letting the cat out of the bag

Oo-er Kirsty!

So.....Are we surprised???

It's Toby previous girlfriend isn't it? Hope Rex catches him cheating on besotted Pip. She did say 'juggling' so maybe she's seen the writing on the wall!
Who is Ganderman's understudy? Who is Justin's? Bring on Charles Paris!!

I wonder if their father will die and leave them loads of money?

There's bound to be some backstory. I am a bit fed up with the way Toby is being portrayed as the useless lothario. I am hoping he comes good as I can understand why he is more attractive to Pip than the wet weekend that is Rex.

Wondering if it is a wife and child in Brighton or a gay lover

Thoughts about Tobys trip to Brighton???

Take note that the bucket collection at the Boxing Day meet was for the Air Ambulance....................

Amused at SW giving Jack a personalised book for Christmas. As Gideon there would have been more encounters with animals. I always think Sebastian and Annabella do best with those lovely books, unlike poor Amy, Zoe, Eli and Zak!

Merlot, I wouldn't be surprised!

Lucky girl, you're right about the things that may contribute to the development of NPD. I accept you may not agree but even people with various personality problems or disorders can engage with therapy aimed at helping them recognise and modify their behaviour. Rob has many advantages in that respect. He is intelligent, organised enough to manage working life, he isn't addicted to gambling, drugs or alcohol. His therapeutic needs will have been set out in the psychological assessment, along with suggestions about how to access appropriare therapy, he can afford to buy it in, unlike the many other parents who have limited and carefully supervised contact. Over to you Mr Titchner, get a referral, engage with the therapist and leave Helen and Henry alone

Well I guess that Rob did not choose his personality disorder and the aetiology of this is much the same as any other mental health issue: part genes, part faulty brain messages,part upbringing, possibly childhood trauma etc. I suppose someone with Rob's problems is so obnoxious and dangerous that there is a tendency to overlook the fact that it may not be his fault. That said, it would be great if he would b****r off and let Helen and Jess get on with their lives.

I wish we could hear from Ruari - he seems to be an elective mute!

George in a quad-bike accident?

Wondering how long it takes a little boy to gradually forget a father figure no longer in his everyday life but so clearly in his thoughts.
Next drama - Lil and Miranda?! Umbrellas at dawn?!

AyjayF My thoughts exactly, does he fancy his new business partner? Does he want Shula out of the way more often?

I've always been suspicious of Alistair, staying away at conferences, avoiding all those Archers parties. Do we think Toby is being accepted into the fold?

Is it me or is Alastair up to no good?

Rob has a narcissistic personality disorder, diagnosed by the 12 year old psychologist and by half of the population. He is dangerous, damaging and as he doesn't believe there is anything that needs to change about him, rather the rest of the world needs to recognise his genius and change to accommodate him, there is currently no hope he'll engage with the therapy that could help him. He's more likely to continue to cause significant distress for all he comes into contact with.
I fear for Jess, as he will be in her vicinity if he's staying at his parents' farm. He could easily convince himself she's the cause of all his problems...
(dum de dum de dum de dum )

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I almost feel sorry for Rob (ducks below parapet) - he has some sort of personality disorder and I guess no-one would choose that, and more than one might choose to be bi-polar or depressed.

Rob is obviously stalking. I am certain that it was he who planted a Christmas figure out front of Bridge Farm for Henry to see. It was either a snowman or Santa, I forget which.

I don't know merlotgran, many of the 14 year old boys in my circle were fairly silent, monosyllabic or grunted when forced to respond to a question. Freddie Partiger has been silent for several years, only recently found his voice again