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Diana's in her own words. Children 4

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Jane10 Sun 06-Aug-17 21:06:18

Just watching this now. My God what a shit Charles is!
Absolutely no respect for him.

Cherrytree59 Mon 07-Aug-17 13:32:33

Charles will more than likley be king within the next 9 years

A poisoned chalice??

gillybob Mon 07-Aug-17 13:40:12

Transcript of conversation. Yes he is our future king!

Charles: "Oh god. I'll just live inside your trousers or something. It would be much easier!"

Camilla: (Laughs.) "What are you going to turn into, a pair of knickers?" (Both laugh). "Oh, you're going to come back as a pair of knickers."

Charles: "Or, God forbid, a Tampax. Just my luck!" (Laughs.)

Camilla: "You are a complete idiot!" (Laughs.) "Oh, what a wonderful idea!"

Jane10 Mon 07-Aug-17 13:41:59

Yuk!

Tegan2 Mon 07-Aug-17 13:45:10

I can't watch the programme; her death still upsets me. I had no idea of what it was like to be in a marriage where the other person was seeing someone else until it happened to me. Mine was an unhappy marriage by that point but the pain of it absolutely crippled me, especially having to see the 'other woman' [she lived in my village] and try to protect the children from knowing about it. I thought Dianas campaigns with regards AIDS and land mines were the greatest things that any royal person had ever done. She [imo] deserves her iconic status.

Anniebach Mon 07-Aug-17 13:45:28

Yes Gilly, but does not God forbid mean - it would be my bad luck

Anniebach Mon 07-Aug-17 13:48:24

But Tegan, do you think the wives of the husbands she had affairs with didn't suffer hurt? Would you choose to inflict the same hurt on another woman that was inflicted on you ?

Ellie Anne Mon 07-Aug-17 13:55:28

I'm not a great fan of Charles or Diana but I think she was too young and naive when she married and he was pressured into it. I do still have doubts about her death. Just too convenient for the royals

starlily106 Mon 07-Aug-17 13:58:28

He married Camilla, but it was said at the time that she would never be queen, now it is starting to look as if she may be. I dislike both of them so much. He married Diana to have an heir and a spare, didn't love her at all. I don't think he should ever be king, his uncle had to abdicate because he wanted to marry Wallis Simpson, and I think Charles should step back and let William take his place. How can anyone want a would be Tampax on the throne?

gillybob Mon 07-Aug-17 13:59:51

Yes it does Anniebach but if you read on he says "his (presumed bad) luck would be to be thrown down the lavatory...etc." not to be the actual tampax. Whatever it'g gross.

The following piece of transcript:

Charles: My luck to be chucked down the lavatory and go on and on forever
swirling round on the top, never going down.

Camilla: (Laughing) Oh, Darling!

Charles: Until the next one comes through.

Camilla: Oh, perhaps you could come back as a box.

Charles: What sort of box?

Camilla: A box of Tampax, so you could just keep going.

Charles: That's true.

Camilla: Repeating yourself...(Laughing) Oh, darling I just want you now.

Charles: Do You?

Camilla: Mmmmm

Charles: So do I!

Camilla: Desperately, desperately. Oh, I thought of you so much at Yaraby.

Charles: Did you?

Camilla: Simply mean we couldn't be there together.

Charles: Desperate. If you could be here - I long to ask Nancy sometimes.

Camilla: Why don't you?

Charles: I daren't

Camilla: Because I think she's in love with you.

Charles: Mmm.

Camilla: She'd do anything you asked.

Charles: She'd tell all sorts of people.

Camilla: No, she wouldn't because she'd be much too frightened of what
you might say to her. I think you've got - I'm afraid it's a
terrible thing to say - but I think , you know, those sort of people
do feel very strongly about you. You've got such a hold over her.

Charles: Really?

Camilla: And you're..... I think, as usual, you're underestimating yourself.

Charles: But she might be terribly jealous or something.

Camilla: Oh! (Laughs) Now that's a point! I wonder, she might be, I suppose.

Charles: You never know, do you?

Camilla: No, The little green eyed monster might be lurking inside her. No,
But I mean the thing is your'e so good when people are so flattered
to be taken into your confidence, but I don't know they'd betray
you. You know, real friends.

Charles: Really?

Camilla: I don't (Pause)

Camilla: Gone to sleep?

Charles: No, I'm here.

Tegan2 Mon 07-Aug-17 14:08:07

That's a difficult one, Annie. It's something that I could and would never consider doing but I have a theory that something like that desensitises [sp] you in some way [a bit like the way that someone who is abused as a child can then go on and abuse their own children; something that, when I've read about it happening is totally beyond my comprehension]. Maybe, having an affair with someone who is married is, in some way, getting your own back by doing the same thing? I honestly don't know. Maybe sometimes, when something like infidelity happens to you, it's as if all the rules have gone out the window. It certainly screws up your brain in ways that I never dreamt possible.

sunseeker Mon 07-Aug-17 14:10:22

so, niggly, it is OK for a man to have mistresses but not for his wife to take lovers! Just what century are you living in! Charles had several mistresses (not just Camilla), he took a keepsake from Camilla on his honeymoon for heavens sake. Yes, Diana was naive, but she was very young and he was in his 30s. IF you believe what has been written about him in the past (and I take all of it with a pinch of salt), he is not above going off in a huff and throwing a tantrum even now. The problem with his becoming King is that many people have no respect for him - without it I can't see the monarchy continuing.

meandashy Mon 07-Aug-17 14:12:17

They both behaved appalling for parents regardless of their titles. If she lived in your village or town she'd have the local bike/homewrecker moniker & he would be the same.
No respect for either of them. She should have won an Oscar for some of those performances.

whitewave Mon 07-Aug-17 14:14:24

What a good Shakespearean drama it would make.

gillybob Mon 07-Aug-17 14:15:21

I think Tegan has a point. If you had been so hurt might your usual morals/judgement be affected to the point of no longer caring?

When my first husband left me holding my baby son I wanted the woman he left me for to feel the same pain and told her to her face that I wished the same would happen to her, with brass knobs on. It eventually did because he left her with 2 children . How horrible of me to wish that on 2 innocent children and their mother, but I did.

Tegan2 Mon 07-Aug-17 14:22:05

I used to shake all over when I saw the 'other woman'; couldn't walk past where she lived, so had to drive through the village if I was going anywhere. To this day, if I bumped into her I would probably shake for hours afterwards. They're no longer together; she went back to her husband after getting quite a lot of money from my ex.

maryhoffman37 Mon 07-Aug-17 14:24:32

I am amazed at how many of you watched the programme!

Blownupdolly Mon 07-Aug-17 14:40:29

Charles is an arrogant, self absorbed creep. Camilla is a poisonous, self obsessed, lying excuse for a woman. I despise the pair of them.
I met Diana back in the 80s. She came across as a warm, caring human being. Do Charles and Camilla? I think not.
I have been convinced from the day she died that she was murdered. After finding out last night that the body guard she fell in love with, conveniently died in a motorbike crash 3 weeks after leaving his job, its all too much of a coincidence if you ask me.
I sincerely hope that Charles and his (best not use the word I want to) wife, are bypassed in honour of William.
There will be no sense of celebration from me if Charles takes the throne. Vile, spoilt little man.

Anniebach Mon 07-Aug-17 14:47:31

Blownupdolly, can you give a good reason for Diana and Dodi to leave their luxurious apartment in the Ritz to go back to his flat, against the advice of their bodyguards and in full knowledge the paparazzi were waiting outside?

nigglynellie Mon 07-Aug-17 14:48:27

I didn't watch either programmes as after watching the trailer, I think dragging it all up again after all these years inappropriate and for totally the wrong reasons. I don't admire either William or Harry for raking up the past in a way that must have embarrassed and probably hurt their father knowing full well that public disapproval of him and Camilla would rear up once again. Everything these two are is due to their father as lets face it Prince Harry's scholastic achievements wouldn't have got him into an officer training establishment, had he been a commoner, never mind a commission or helicopter flying! Prince William and his family wouldn't enjoy their position of privilege but for his father, so to throw this now ancient history, whatever the rights and wrongs of it up in their fathers face again , seems to me disloyal in the extreme.

nigglynellie Mon 07-Aug-17 14:49:59

Not someone else she fell in love with?!!!!!!!!!!

Anniebach Mon 07-Aug-17 14:53:05

James Hewitt, Oliver Hoare , Will Carling, James Gilby, Hasnar Khan, Brian Adams survived

nigglynellie Mon 07-Aug-17 14:53:33

Bud, Charles can't be bypassed thank goodness, he would have to abdicate and nothing can make him do that, again, thank goodness.

Cherrytree59 Mon 07-Aug-17 14:55:28

I nearly didn't.
Just spotted Jane's post last night on GN but had missed quite a bit.

Afraid I already did not like Charles.

Starlily 'A would be Tampax on the throne with Cami- knickers as Queen. shock

I think that this TV programme was most likely aired to remind people of the royal antics and hopefully halt the public acceptance of Camilla becoming Queen.

gillybob Mon 07-Aug-17 15:02:54

James Hewitt, Oliver Hoare , Will Carling, James Gilby, Hasnar Khan, Brian Adams survived

But how many died Anniebach it reads like something from Henry 8th times.

Brian Adams did you say? Brian Adams as in "everything I do I do for yooooo" ? Well slap me all over with a wet fish. I had no idea..... Brian Adams..... eh?

Not surprised mind you, as she was very beautiful and could probably have her pick of most men. Why the heck did she pick charlie farlie? [shaking head emoticon]

Anniebach Mon 07-Aug-17 15:03:20

I didn't watch the programme niggly , the nonsense that she chose bulimia to self harm so not to hurt others, and all the talk of her suffering over losing her lover Manakee , Mrs Manakee and her children suffered far more, and it must have hurt Mrs Manakee than Diana openly criticised the choice of place where his ashes were scattered .

Plus there is no excuse for the lashing out at
Tiggy because the two sons adored her and their mother was jealous .

This was the saintly Diana , everything was everyone else's fault, never, ever herd.