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Good one Merlot Looked on TA website and no mention of them at all...…………………….and Jennifer's been a bit quiet recently too!!
Can anyone recall why the Grundys are leaving Grange Farm again? Is it that they can't afford the rent without Emma & Ed or is Oliver moving back in?

Kate was horrible. She's not above a bit of scrounging herself.

Tracey was so right when she said the well off in Ambridge have either inherited money or married it and talking of money, why can't we hear a bit more about the Gills at Home Farm?

As they obviously have been given a mortgage, then they should just go along with it.. Provided they, somehow, manage to meet their monthly payment, the Mortgage company need never know that he is not in regular employment at present.
Eventually, when he gets another job, they just then need to inform the mortgage company - but do not think they will be particularly interested provided they receive the money each month.
I can remember,many years back, of something similar happening to me and my hubbie,- but he lost his job BEFORE the mortgage offer was made. I can really, even now - nearly 50 years later, remember my feelings of total desperation and asking people to help. In the end hubbie did get another job in time for us to make proper application, etc.
Do hope we get a happy ending for this

I used to enjoy The Archers as an escape, accepting a certain amount of unhappiness and wrong doing (like Freddie deserving to be caught out) as part of life, but the story line about Emma and Ed has been unbelievable for a long time. I just don’t see how, even with all their several jobs (unskilled probably minimum wage) they would ever have got a mortgage for a new house, even if they took advantage of the government scheme to help with the deposit. It’s very understandable how Ed got involved with Tim’s scheme then couldn’t get out, but I find it totally depressing to think of yet another scam that our poor farmers are up against (even though it’s fiction no doubt it’s based on RL) - on top of competing against, in RL, cheaper imports, machinery theft, livestock theft/ disease and, as happened round here recently, cruel and senseless butchering of lambs. No wonder we are beginning to see fields of green turning into swathes of grey solar panels.

Why indeed Sara65?

I missed a couple of episodes this week, so I’m not quite up to speed. Why would Emmer ask Jim for money? They aren’t even friends are they ?

I don't want them to be homeless - but am concerned that Emma did know Ed was doing dodgy stuff and continued to push him in that direction.

As for Adam, I think Ed had to go - given this was exactly what poisoned the river in the first place. Brian was quite conciliatory in the end but I don't think Ed can go back there at the moment.

What I'm bothered about now is what will they do with the chemicals still in the pole barn? I don't think I've missed anything and they are still there?

It doesn't really fit with her character that Emma would go around begging for money. Too shameful. The mortgage company wouldn't know unless they couldn't meet their mortgage payments, surely that would be the time to ask parents with help to tide them over until Ed could get another job? If they lose this house they will have to rent, which isnt cheap anyway. Ah ha - or move in with Will

I suppose they may have to declare a change in circumstances but I think I'd keep schtum and get another job ASAP.

I'm wondering if we're all going to be kept on the edges of our seats until Joe dies and there will be a miraculous inheritance from an insurance policy he'd forgotten all about.

Emmur's behaviour is appalling.

Ed now becomes easy prey for Tim and his cronies.

Sorry, this storyline with Emma, Ed and the new house doesn't ring true!

They have the mortgage in place, surely they don't have to provide proof of earnings at this stage?

I know Ed is right that the mortgage company should be told but I am so with Emma on this one. She simply cannot lose this house. ?

Well when you think about it, I don’t suppose the scriptwriters were ever going to let a Grundy have a happy ending, I like the Grundys ( except Will ) decent salt of the earth folks!

Poor Emma .

Oh no, poor Ed. I know it’s not real but I can’t help feeling sorry for poor Clarrie who works so hard for her family. And Joe will have to die sometime soon as well. And Emmer and her new coffee table. . And Keirer and her new bedroom. . Will it never end?

P.S. I do know it's only a drama , but did Emma get any qualifications.?

I for one want to see some " happy ever after" for the Grundy family. Please not going back to Meadow Rise, I couldn't bear it. They work hard all of them.

I am never sure why Neil and Susan aren't prepared to help financially, as they are both in 'managerial' roles' and built their own house. They could spare a few thousand maybe.

I realise that Chris and Alice may be due less help since Jennifer and Brian have crashed and burned but they don't have any children yet.

I suppose they could try to get a job in Worcester, Redditch or Birmingham.

I haven't listened for over a year as I got fed up with Roy and some woman who was going back home to another country and then 2 men having a baby. Found it really boring. But after reading all your comments I must start listening again.

This storyline has a lot of possibilities. I do hope Ed can manage to turn the tables somehow.

I'm fed up with the constant 'doom and gloom for the Grundys' bandwagon.

I imagine work isn’t that easy to find around village areas such as Ambridge and travelling would mean the clapped out van. Rural poverty is often glossed over by the media as some assume all is lovely and home grown veggies and cottages with “roses round the door” , but the Grundy family embody so many of the problems people face.
It’s a timely reminder and I wish I could try not to treat it all as real.

Can't Ed just find another job? He isn't paying the mortgage yet so why should he lose the house if they've already raised the deposit?

I can see Adam's point though. It would have been different if Tim hadn't visited Home Farm, spoken to him and given him a business card but Adam could find himself backed into a corner when trying to argue that he wasn't involved.

I'm way too invested in this as well. As I mentioned way back in the thread, I still think Ed should have gone to Harrison and offered to go 'under cover.'

I obviously watch far too many police dramas.

I think Adam is being a sanctimonious prig. Easy for him to occupy the high ground, given Brian’s illegal practices the consequences of which he could afford to get out of.
I dread the consequences for Ed and Emma.
(Get a grip MB it’s not real)

Poor Ed!

I don’t think Adam had a choice though

Thanks for the link, NotSpaghetti. I discovered mustardland on Mumsnet's Archers thread and pop in now and again.