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The Trial of Christine Keeler.

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Calendargirl Mon 30-Dec-19 13:45:00

This started last night. It’s on again tonight, not sure how many episodes there will be.
I enjoyed it, the Profumo Affair was in the news when I was about 8 or 9, went over my head then obviously, but remember my parents were shocked that she was carrying on with the Minister for War and a Russian at the same time.
Not sure about Ben Miles’ appearance as Profumo, he looked a bit scary I thought. James Norton seemed an authentic Stephen Ward.

Davidhs Tue 31-Dec-19 07:57:44

As a schoolboy we were very familiar with The Christine Keeler affair and a great many lewd jokes circulated at the time.
She was of course demonized unjustly it was the men manipulating her and the other girls involved that were the real villains. Profumo was a fool and the security services were caught napping but I don’t think there was a credible security risk. If CK had been a trained Russian spy, damage would have been done, she wasn’t more than an ordinary escort.

Watched the TV program for 20 mins, won’t bother to watch more

Resurgam123 Tue 31-Dec-19 07:52:49

I really cannot see why people are now still watching that.
It was a very long time ago.

I remember the fuss but there have been far worse "scandles" since then. I find it odd that the media is still interested in that.

travelsafar Tue 31-Dec-19 07:29:29

I am really enjoying this drama. I love the clothes and hairstyles of the girls and i am enjoying the way the men in 'charge' are just soooo stupid and think they can do as they please without regard for the young girls they are doing it too. Even though it backfired on CK it high lighted that those of the 'establishment' are not as perfect as once thought. I believe it is also the case today, look at the scandals around Boris which have suddenly disappeared from the news.

Jane10 Tue 31-Dec-19 07:15:48

It was strangely boring. I watched last night's episode but found my mind wandering off or I was fiddling with my phone etc. I don't know why the pace is so desperately slow.

Lyndiloo Tue 31-Dec-19 03:11:23

I missed Episode 1, but watched Episode 2 tonight.

I remember the 'Profumo Affair' well. I was about 16 at the time, I think, and worked in a 'government establishment' in London (have to be careful what I say here). Our boss was fired because he, too, was caught up in this scandal. He wasn't a public figure - never named in the press - and I wonder how many other men were actually involved ...? I think that this scandal spread much wider than the public was ever told. I wonder if that will all come out in this programme ...? (I doubt it!)

Doodledog Tue 31-Dec-19 02:23:25

He is very creepy. I hate the way he calls her 'little baby'.

Fiachna50 Tue 31-Dec-19 01:52:33

Ive thought the drama was good. I find the Dr creepy. Think Scandal was better though. I was only a baby when all this was going on.

Grandma2213 Tue 31-Dec-19 01:36:31

I was a physically and mentally very immature 15 year old and remember it well. What has struck me about the series is how young she actually was. I remember thinking of her as a mature and stunning looking woman. I can also remember that photo of her naked, sitting astride a chair which I thought was absolutely beautiful. As for the politicians I think my parents believed that was fairly typical of their behaviour and as I have aged I'm not sure that my opinions have changed much!

welbeck Tue 31-Dec-19 01:02:16

as to degrees of responsibility, freedom of choice etc, I have read that the brain is not fully formed esp in terms of judgment until age about 24-25. acc to neuro-psychologists.
don't suppose its gone backwards in the last 60 yrs.

merlotgran Tue 31-Dec-19 00:21:53

Yes she did. Maybe she just appeared older than her years to my sixteen year old self.

Callistemon Mon 30-Dec-19 23:50:00

Yes, Mandy R-D was chocolate box pretty
I didn't say Christine K was beautiful, just that she had a certain something which set her apart from other pretty girls.

Maggiemaybe Mon 30-Dec-19 23:42:01

If they announced that the series concludes next week, it must have been an error, as it’s a six parter. I really don’t see how they’re going to string this one out for another four hours. It was pretty slow tonight.

merlotgran Mon 30-Dec-19 23:41:43

I always thought it was the other way round. Christine Keeler had a plain, dare I say almost seedy, look about her whereas Mandy Rice Davies was chocolate box pretty.

QuaintIrene Mon 30-Dec-19 23:33:42

Oh yes, the actress is lovely. But CK was something else. She had glamour.

Callistemon Mon 30-Dec-19 23:23:12

The actress is a lovely girl, very attractive.

However, Christine Keeler had a je-ne-sais-quoi which set her apart from other pretty girls.

QuaintIrene Mon 30-Dec-19 23:20:47

I can’t say I was impressed by it.
I was just too young to remember it all being in the papers, but my sister does and she says that CK was exploited.
The film “Scandal” was very good. The soundtrack brilliant. I’ve been singing along to Dusty all day !
Christine Keeler was much more beautiful than the actress playing her in this, I think.

Callistemon Mon 30-Dec-19 23:17:34

No, I didn't see the film perhaps I should watch out for it on tv; I can't get engrossed in this tv version.

Eloethan Mon 30-Dec-19 23:12:47

Christine Keeler was a young woman who had been sexually exploited from a young age and who continued to be exploited by these men. The general public, naively as it turned out, expected government ministers and the like to be fine, upstanding people. They were shocked by Profumo's behaviour but it appears that much of the blame was laid at a young woman's door.

I didn't find the first episode particularly engaging or enlightening and I found the portrayal of Profumo, Keeler and Rice-Davies fairly superficial. I haven't seen the second episode yet.

I didn't see the film Scandal - did anyone else ,and do you think it was better? (I love the Dusty Springfield/Pet Shop Boys record "Nothing has been proved").

Callistemon Mon 30-Dec-19 23:12:39

I think it is in six episodes, Bluebelle!

mrswoo Mon 30-Dec-19 23:08:27

I thought tonight’s episode was far better than the first one. I found the first episode a bit confusing due to the jumping backwards and forwards in time.
I was at boarding school when the scandal broke and was probably too young anyway to fully understand what it was about but I remember the school stopped the delivery of newspapers until the court case was over!

BlueBelle Mon 30-Dec-19 22:52:16

That’s exactly how I feel callistamon

Callistemon Mon 30-Dec-19 22:48:51

Yes, they said that the final episode is next Sunday.
I don't know how they could string it out much longer.

I think that watching the story unfold all those years ago was far more interesting than this dramatisation.

BlueBelle Mon 30-Dec-19 22:39:28

I found tonight’s episode it pretty boring to be honest

Charleygirl5 Mon 30-Dec-19 22:31:21

That is what I do not understand- at the start it said that there would be 6 episodes but at the end of tonight's episode it said that the concluding episode would be this Sunday.

silverlining48 Mon 30-Dec-19 22:24:48

There will be 6 episodes apparently.