ITV - Flesh & Blood

One theory doing the rounds is that Mark was Vivien’s husband’s lover - she made her husband give the lover up, so he’s getting his revenge......

I like that idea of the older woman seeking revenge , but Mark would have recognised her. I wonder how they met too. He seems to have come out of the ether or the sea mist even.

She hasn't done too well with her beloved children, they are a pretty dysfunctional bunch.

I don’t think it’s Vivien getting revenge Calendargirl as the adult children were reading about Mark’s first wife from an old newspaper cutting and they would have recognised her name.

merlotgran
That's what I need - a body double who will go to the gym for me, run around town etc!

I thought body double for the beach running too!

No UG, I meant cougar woman, Jake’s personal trainer client, looking to avenge the dead first wife, but how or why heaven knows as I am overthinking this.
Must get on with some housework instead of all this!
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Cougar woman's name is Stella. The name of Mark's 1st wife's friend who denied wife had depression wasn't Stella (but can't recall what it was!) but as Cougar Stella seems to be a reliably established lawyer, I guess she hasn't changed her name recently. I think Cougar Stella is just in it in order to bring in more revelations to pass on to Jake.

Vivien has seemed vulnerable and a bit "dippy" so far, but now I wonder if she will be "the worm that turned" in order to protect her children. Roll on tonight.

What's the attraction in Mary's greenhouse ? Poison plants ?
Although it's too obvious to be either her or Mark. We'll know tonight, hopefully. They've all got issues haven't they ?

The hypocrisy infuriates me. Why is the son angry at his wife for dating while he is playing away for money? Why was the younger sister upset over her brother-in-law's supposed infidelity while she is trying to break up a marriage and a family herself?
Aaaaargh!

Can anyone explain why Mary smashed that glass object on the floor?

What's the attraction in Mary's greenhouse ? Poison plants?

Or just a good viewing point to watch the comings and goings at Vivien's house?

They've all got issues haven't they ?

It would be boring if they hadn't!

Because the whole lot of them are dysfunctional, Pittcity and Mary more or less brought them up whilst their Dad was busy elsewhere and their mother worked.

What was her job, I wonder?
Is that significant?

whilst their Dad was busy elsewhere is that a euphemism Calli?
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Bellasnonna I think the smashed perfume bottle was just Mary impulsively having a joke, putting the wind up Mark. It would me anyway! She’s getting quite daring with her norty behaviour - was she always like this, snooping? Probably. She inveigled herself into this family, wanting to be part of it and now she’s terribly jealous that Mark has the upper hand. She wants him to know he has met his match.

Urm
Who knows what he was up to?

Callistemon

I think in the first episode it was said Vivien had a hairdresser business.

Oh I hope it has a good ending !!

I want to know why Mary was cutting-up the bag of charity clothes and then stitching them together again. Also looks like she will wear one of Vivien' s cast- offs to the party, but how did it fit her?

I reckon Mary tried to kill Vivien! Pure jealously and rejection.

Good explanation re the glass bottle Urmston.
If Mary was actually guilty would they make it look as though she could be? Red herring I think.

Perhaps the first husband has a love child but who could it be????

Calendargran, thanks, that figures with her rather elaborate hair!

threexnanny it was suggested upthread that Mary was making a quilt from the children's clothes.
People do that, making memories.

I wonder if the granddaughter is something to do with it?

Although I do seem to have some of my DC's things at our house, I haven't kept any clothes from when they were that young.
Does anyone?

I think some of you are being a bit hard on Mary. Were told that her baby died and husband left ( but I do wonder how she’s managed to carry on living there and maintaining herself). She was then very useful to the family for years - I think V is rather bitchy about her. If Mary has got her revenge, I hope she gets away with it. V is exactly the sort of drippy woman I can’t stand.,