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Anne Boleyn

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Sarnia Wed 19-May-21 08:22:36

Why is a black woman playing Anne Boleyn? Has this been done to appease those who want to change our history? I, for one, am fed up with the people who graffiti, damage and remove anything from British history that they don't agree with. History has happened, it is past, you can't change it but you can learn from it. Anne Boleyn was white so she should be played by a white actress. If Benedict Cumberbatch announced he was playing Martin Luther-King there would be hell to pay.

Doodledog Wed 19-May-21 10:50:43

Peasblossom

But Mary survived and she was a subsequent child.

That is discussed here

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/03/110303153114.htm

AcornFairy Wed 19-May-21 10:51:24

There are times and places for "Art" but it seems to me that "Art" is attempting to trump "History". For those watching TV for entertainment and education this is all becoming rather confusing. Are you saying that what we see on the screen needs to be filtered: "Is this art or is it history?" Are you saying that whatever we see on screen is open to interpretation? Is this one of the reasons why society is becoming increasingly divided? Life is surely already puzzling enough!

Peasblossom Wed 19-May-21 10:52:41

Thanks ?

Doodledog Wed 19-May-21 10:52:50

That posted too soon, and of course we can't edit ?

This is the relevant paragraph from the article:
"Although the fact that Henry and Katherine of Aragon's firstborn did not survive is somewhat atypical, it is possible that some cases of Kell sensitization affect even the first pregnancy," the report notes. The survival of Mary, the fifth pregnancy for Katherine of Aragon, fits the Kell scenario if Mary inherited the recessive Kell gene from Henry, resulting in a healthy infant."

Peasblossom Wed 19-May-21 11:00:40

Very interesting article Doodledog. ?

EllanVannin Wed 19-May-21 11:09:31

It's now the way of the world Sarnia and personally I find it quite sickening----all this appeasement, mustn't upset anyone, or else !

GagaJo Wed 19-May-21 11:12:42

When I saw that advertised, I KNEW there would be complaints on Gransnet.

It isn't real. It's an adaptation. Give over with the racism.

Alegrias1 Wed 19-May-21 11:12:42

sickening shock

Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the wee donkey....

EllanVannin Wed 19-May-21 11:13:37

Everything should be left in its place. I love Porgy and Bess, but for God's sake leave things as they are. I wouldn't want to see white actors in their place.

jaylucy Wed 19-May-21 11:19:36

I guess that the casting director chose the actress for her ability rather than bothering about the colour of her skin.
Well I hope it's that, rather than trying to prove a point.

theworriedwell Wed 19-May-21 11:19:55

When I saw a clip I thought it might be to represent the fact that Anne was seen as foreign and a bit exotic as she had grown up in France and wore French fashion. The black actress is a visual signal of that "otherness" if you see what I mean. Maybe I was thinking too much.

GagaJo Wed 19-May-21 11:41:59

EllanVannin

Everything should be left in its place. I love Porgy and Bess, but for God's sake leave things as they are. I wouldn't want to see white actors in their place.

If that was done, we'd never see people of colour in art. Our history is white. Our arts are mostly white.

GagaJo Wed 19-May-21 11:42:46

I like your point, theworriedwell.

Riverwalk Wed 19-May-21 11:58:36

I don't know what's sickening about a black actor taking on the role of a white person.

Just because the OP conflated the casting with graffiti and damage doesn't mean there's any connection, or appeasement.

Sarnia and ellenvanin do you ever go to the theatre?

Doodledog Wed 19-May-21 12:09:20

Everything should be left in its place
But who decides on what that place should be? What do you mean by ‘place’ anyway?

Dinahmo Wed 19-May-21 12:12:26

I see nothing wrong with the casting at all. I am fed up with all the programmes about the Tudors however.

If we are to have more films/series about earlier Royals maybe the Georges 111 and 1V would make good subjects.

It is believed that Queen Charlotte (wife of George 111) was of mixed race since she was descended from Alphonso 11 of Portugal and his Moorish paramour. Reading some of the contemporary descriptions of Queen Charlotte, she was fairly accurately depicted in Bridgerton.

Lucca Wed 19-May-21 12:24:25

Doodledog

*Everything should be left in its place*
But who decides on what that place should be? What do you mean by ‘place’ anyway?

That is a very good point. How should everything be left in its place? No change ever ? No progress ..

trisher Wed 19-May-21 12:31:50

If "everything should be left in its place" should we then go back to having boys play the women in Shakespeare?

Lucca Wed 19-May-21 12:34:21

Or we could bring back the black and white minstrel
Show?

Hithere Wed 19-May-21 12:46:33

This is not new.

Bridgeton, the new version of beauty and the beast...

Jesus Christ wasnt white but he keeps getting represented as such on the screen.

Mildmanneredgran Wed 19-May-21 12:53:51

Today is the anniversary of her execution. Every year a bouquet of red roses is delivered to the Tower of London from an anonymous trust with the request to lay them on her grave. They are only removed when they have withered away.

Mildmanneredgran Wed 19-May-21 12:56:21

Even now she remains controversial!

ElaineI Wed 19-May-21 13:13:44

My niece is in this. Her parents are Indian. They left Kenya when it became dangerous. They have worked since they arrived in UK 45 odd years ago. All their children were born and brought up and went to uni here. Same with grandchildren. Anyone want to have a go at her?

theworriedwell Wed 19-May-21 13:25:32

Elainel how exciting, I'll watch out for her. Has she got a big part?

Blinko Wed 19-May-21 13:37:24

I must admit to really liking the colour blind casting in Bridgerton. If that's what it was. It seemed to add sparkle and interest to what could have been a fairly ordinary story.