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Eurovision Song Contest....time to leave?

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Chestnut Sun 23-May-21 10:04:56

Why is it we can never produce an exciting song or artist even though we have the given the world the very best of popular music over the last 60 years? I imagine we are getting null points because the song is rubbish, not because they don't like us.
Should we leave Eurovision altogether? We are contributing a fair bit towards it, which seems like a waste of money if we can't make more effort with our entries.

ForeverAutumn Wed 26-May-21 09:18:13

We have lived, worked and travelled a lot throughout Europe. Music by our artistes are played, enjoyed and sung all across the Continent and Brexit hasn't changed that. Our Eurovision entries are not representative of the wealth of music we have in the UK. Perhaps the choosing of the entries should be taken away from the BBC and put in the hands of someone who has an idea.

Craftycat Wed 26-May-21 12:30:04

I quite liked this years song.
Let's face it- we are not at all popular on the Continent as we dared to break free from the EU. We are never going to do well in this show for a long time to come.
I would love it if we just stopped doing it (have you any idea how much money we plough into staging it!!) & hold out own show with only up & coming British artistes. That would develop new talent & still give Graham Norton a job to do!

Harmonypuss Wed 26-May-21 12:36:33

I skimmed the songs and scoring, absolute rubbish!

I have one question.... since when has Australia been part of Europe?

Alegrias1 Wed 26-May-21 12:37:25

No Craftycat, I don't know. Can you tell us how much money we plough into it?

I'm quite tickled that people think the point of this is to win the competition grin

MayBee70 Wed 26-May-21 12:38:17

I know a lot of people that bet on Eurovision and make a profit. The best song usually wins.

moggie57 Wed 26-May-21 12:40:38

the contest doesnt allow the uk public to pick the one we want to enter the eurovision .and that bloke was as flat as a pancake and the song was awful ,. we want something quirky or someone who can sing .

Chestnut Wed 26-May-21 12:48:39

I'm still so moved by 'Fallen Angel' by Norway. It is definitely this year's most underrated song, beautiful words and a touching message. It has meaning and should have won.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0r3vmGLzZU

Eloethan Wed 26-May-21 15:45:40

Our song was very uninspiring - dreary, repetitive melody and lyrics and very old fashioned. I wouldn't have voted for it either.

Some other years our songs weren't to bad and I don't think we merited such poor marks.

This year I thought the variety and quality of songs was good and there were several that I liked but particularly Switzerland and (I think) Portugal.

Eloethan Wed 26-May-21 15:49:37

Who liked the winner? I thought it was dire.

MayBee70 Wed 26-May-21 16:35:51

I hated it. But it was the favourite to win so people must have seen something in it that I didn’t.

GrannyRose15 Wed 26-May-21 16:44:00

Years ago, when Norway was the first country to get "nil points" one of their commentators went on to a talk show and declared that the rest of us had all got it wrong. The whole point of the contest was to come out with "nil points". Perhaps we should adopt his attitude.

AgewithJoy Wed 26-May-21 21:42:00

The only reason we still take part IMO is that the BBC own the programme and make loads of money from it. That's why we get straight onto the final without having to compete in the heats. Everyone else takes it very seriously, we treat it as a joke - we all loved Terry and now Graham. With the way we are viewed by the other nations coupled with our unimaginative entries all in all it's not surprising we don't do well.

AlAlex Thu 27-May-21 01:04:29

This year was the first time I didn't watch Eurovision. Speaking about the song, it really wasn't great.

ElderlyPerson Thu 27-May-21 11:52:18

It seems to me that the best way forward would be for the BBC to declare that we will no longer accept a bye through to the final, and that we will go all out to be enthusiastic and win, recognising that we need not only a song that is fine in a variety show but also has sparkle and a performance that is novel and memorable even to people who know no English whatsoever.
When the UK has won, the song has been upbeat, fast tempo, and memorable.

Like Puppet on a String.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmyh9mUga-w

www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZX77a0Bnmk

Gannygangan Thu 27-May-21 11:57:20

We get a bye through to the final because we fund the thing!

We're part of the Big 5 ...France, Germany, Italy, Spain and us.

So we automatically go through.

We've not done well for 25 years or more.

ElderlyPerson Thu 27-May-21 12:00:16

Gannygangan

We get a bye through to the final because we fund the thing!

We're part of the Big 5 ...France, Germany, Italy, Spain and us.

So we automatically go through.

We've not done well for 25 years or more.

Yes, but people make the rules, the BBC should insist on no special treatment.

Getting a bye is just not British. fair play.

ElderlyPerson Thu 27-May-21 12:12:27

Eurovision All Winners 1956-2019

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eTmxxegleo

Gannygangan Thu 27-May-21 12:15:06

The BBC aren't insisting on special treatment

5 countries pay the most so get an entry into the final

It's just how it is

ElderlyPerson Thu 27-May-21 12:50:06

If the BBC is paying a good amount, then Eurovision accepting a refusal by the BBC to accept a bye could be a bargaining point for continuing to pay the good amount.

Also, getting a bye means no benefit of having been in a semi-final.

Parsley3 Thu 27-May-21 13:42:35

So we pay to be in the final so that we can suffer the humiliation of getting no votes. That’s crazy.

Alegrias1 Thu 27-May-21 14:41:40

At the risk of repeating myself....

We pay into the EBU, one of the benefits is entry to the Eurovision Song Contest Final. It's not the only benefit.

We don't enter to win. We enter to be there. Remember that old saying? It matters not to win or lose but how you play the game.

Callistemon Thu 27-May-21 17:36:11

It matters not to win or lose but how you play the game.

Nah, only winning matters!! But we didn't even play the game very well did we.

????

Alegrias1 Thu 27-May-21 17:48:49

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ElderlyPerson Thu 27-May-21 19:04:24

Alegrias1

At the risk of repeating myself....

We pay into the EBU, one of the benefits is entry to the Eurovision Song Contest Final. It's not the only benefit.

We don't enter to win. We enter to be there. Remember that old saying? ^It matters not to win or lose but how you play the game.^

If winning did not matter, each player in every team that enters the FA football cup competition would get a medal, with all the medals being the same.

And for the Olympics and so on!

Callistemon Thu 27-May-21 20:01:12

In it to win it, Alegrias!!

For goodness sake Australia?
What's that all about?
I love Australia but whoever asked them to join didn't pass Geography 'O' level, did they!