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More ‘British’ TV? What do they mean?

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ayse Fri 17-Sept-21 07:20:24

Just wondering what our ridiculous government are proposing. What is ‘British’ TV?

I admit to liking old fashioned detective dramas such as Midsommer Murders, Vera etc. and modern ones like Line of Duty. Costume drama is another favourite. I’d definitely like more home grown TV rather than loads of USA imports.

Just been watching Jewel in the Crown for the first time. What an indictment of British rule in India. Perhaps we will see more programmes about the iniquities of British rule elsewhere in the world and the appalling treatment both ancient and modern inflicted on the poorest in our society? Somehow I doubt that.

So what do the government mean?

trisher Fri 17-Sept-21 14:59:31

Josianne

Some of you lot are soo funny calling positive comments "ridiculous" just because you want to be right. I follow every genre and I do have experience. Did I say foreign art wasn't up to it? Have any of you actually worked in theatre or stage schools? Are your kids employed in the business? We have not eradicated our place on the world stage. Sport, the Arts and Media go way beyond that cuffufle. British TV will always move forward and re invent itself.

Actually I have experience in several of those fields and I know that most arts organisations are struggling to find the funds they lost when we left the EU and that individuals who are in those fields have benefitted and been supported by EU development programmes. The idea that British Arts in anyway exiats as a seperate entity from its European neighbours is completely out of date. My son is in the business.

JenniferEccles Fri 17-Sept-21 15:02:16

I have noticed that those of a politically Left-leaning persuasion, are less likely to be patriotic, continually knocking anything and everything British.

The evidence is clear on here.

trisher Fri 17-Sept-21 15:05:37

How is it "knocking" British anything to say that it needs to replace EU funding with other money?

growstuff Fri 17-Sept-21 15:06:53

How insulting JenniferEccles! Has it ever occurred to you that "those of a politically Left-leaning persuasion" care about their country too and despair about the damage being done to its very fibre by the charlatans in government with their tin-pot meaningless patriotism?

lemongrove Fri 17-Sept-21 15:12:20

Perhaps if we get a Labour government next Jennifer anything prefaced by the word British will suddenly be in favour.?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 17-Sept-21 15:16:25

JenniferEccles

I have noticed that those of a politically Left-leaning persuasion, are less likely to be patriotic, continually knocking anything and everything British.

The evidence is clear on here.

????, I assume you had your tongue in your cheek.?

Alegrias1 Fri 17-Sept-21 15:34:06

They say that they want programs to reflect British values, I believe.

Clearly according to some on here that doesn't include self-deprecation, irony and tolerance. Ho hum.

trisher Fri 17-Sept-21 15:37:13

Alegrias1
They say that they want programs to reflect British values, I believe.
That must be a joke surely-one of the programmes praised was Derry Girls!!!! shock

Callistemon Fri 17-Sept-21 15:38:02

JaneJudge

Ronnie O'Sullivan could do an entertainment hour too where he acts moody and beats someone up with a snooker cue, it will have to be after the watershed

I'd hit him with a snooker cue if I could!

Oops, I am normally very peace-loving.

Josianne Fri 17-Sept-21 15:43:19

A light hearted example of how British TV, Brexit and political persuasions all meet and result in a car crash.

Aveline Fri 17-Sept-21 16:08:59

It's hard to believe that anyone of any political persuasion actually likes 'Mrs Brown's Boys'!

JaneJudge Fri 17-Sept-21 16:09:25

This has all gone a bit Harry Hill, who would win a fight but Mrs Browns Boys is fighting with itself

62Granny Fri 17-Sept-21 16:27:58

Perhaps the new culture minister is looking to have her books made into a British TV drama ?

JaneJudge Fri 17-Sept-21 17:37:24

I call the new culture secretary Mrs Yogurt

ayse Fri 17-Sept-21 19:54:37

Namsnanny

ayse

Just wondering what our ridiculous government are proposing. What is ‘British’ TV?

I admit to liking old fashioned detective dramas such as Midsommer Murders, Vera etc. and modern ones like Line of Duty. Costume drama is another favourite. I’d definitely like more home grown TV rather than loads of USA imports.

Just been watching Jewel in the Crown for the first time. What an indictment of British rule in India. Perhaps we will see more programmes about the iniquities of British rule elsewhere in the world and the appalling treatment both ancient and modern inflicted on the poorest in our society? Somehow I doubt that.

So what do the government mean?

I admit to liking old fashioned detective drama like Midsomer Murders, Vera etc, and modern ones like Line of Duty. Costume drama is another favourite.*I'd definitely like more home grown tv rather than loads of USA imports*

It sounds as if you represent the people the statement was aimed at ayse

I like all of the above too. I do find programs from most other countries just as good at times though.

I too enjoy TV made by others than the Brits. The Bridge was particularly enjoyable as are many Scandi dramas, especially on Ch.4. I prefer slower more thoughtful TV although GOT was very gripping but rather gory and overdone in places.

I genuinely don’t understand what the government is intending with their statement and was hoping that others might have some idea exactly what they meant. These days we have a huge selection of viewing, to suit most tastes so what is there to grumble about?

Alegrias1 Fri 17-Sept-21 20:10:45

I went to find the transcript of the speech. I do it so you don't have to grin

Some highlights:

Britishness is, of course, a nebulous concept ... The sort of things we’ve all grown up with. Only Fools and Horses, Dad’s Army, Carry On. (I kid you not)

I’m not talking about waving union flags and a picture of the Queen in every scene. (sorry growstuff, your Eastenders theory is gone for a burton)

That’s why we plan to legislate as soon as possible, and make it a legal requirement that major online platforms must carry PSB content, and that they must ensure that it’s easy to find. (Isn’t that Government control of the media? That can’t be good.)

So there we go. Clear as mud.

www.gov.uk/government/speeches/john-whittingdales-speech-to-the-rts-cambridge-convention-2021

Lucca Mon 20-Sept-21 12:41:04

Josianne

Just a few:
Vos Objets Ont Une Histoire, based onAntiques Roadshow,Cousu Main, based upon ourSewing Bee,Danse Avec Les Stars, The Weakest Link or le Maillon Faible, Le Meilleur Pâtissier, The Great British Bake Off. Not to mention Morse, Midsommer Murders, Broadchurch, Deal or No Deal all of which show in France.
I think The Crystal Maze might have been a French production.

Agree Britain leads the way in TV, but you said “in the arts”.

Lucca Mon 20-Sept-21 12:46:08

JenniferEccles

I have noticed that those of a politically Left-leaning persuasion, are less likely to be patriotic, continually knocking anything and everything British.

The evidence is clear on here.

Not this again. I support British sportspeople. I think our countryside is beautiful and I think British tv has been second to none but don’t want some political nonsense rule coming in to dictate how programmes are made.
“Britishness” ?? What is that exactly ? It’s a million different things.

Lucca Mon 20-Sept-21 12:46:45

JaneJudge

I call the new culture secretary Mrs Yogurt

.?

nanna8 Mon 20-Sept-21 12:49:51

I’d say British tv is the best in the world. Leaves American trash for dead and also most Australian. Sometimes the Canadians and Irish have good shows but, yes, British is Best.

MayBee70 Mon 20-Sept-21 13:59:45

I don’t know about tv but I saw a programme on BBC 4 about Australian film which has been truly groundbreaking over the years.

Alegrias1 Mon 20-Sept-21 14:09:25

Careful MayBee70, you can't go praising other countries. Someone will be along in a minute to tell you you're not patriotic.

halfpint1 Mon 20-Sept-21 14:19:33

Parsley3

We already have long standing programmes that celebrate the everyday lives of British folk... Corrie, Eastenders, River City for starters. What more do they want?

Really? They represent real life, crikey, is it that dire in England?

Josianne Mon 20-Sept-21 14:25:08

Lucca

Josianne

Just a few:
Vos Objets Ont Une Histoire, based onAntiques Roadshow,Cousu Main, based upon ourSewing Bee,Danse Avec Les Stars, The Weakest Link or le Maillon Faible, Le Meilleur Pâtissier, The Great British Bake Off. Not to mention Morse, Midsommer Murders, Broadchurch, Deal or No Deal all of which show in France.
I think The Crystal Maze might have been a French production.

Agree Britain leads the way in TV, but you said “in the arts”.

Yes, slip of the tongue and I corrected myself earlier I believe.
British TV is a master at portraying the Arts from around the world, all of which are equally important.
I think our own home grown treasures instill a feeling of pride and further afield they offer a window into our diverse culture.

Parsley3 Mon 20-Sept-21 14:25:45

halfpint1

Parsley3

We already have long standing programmes that celebrate the everyday lives of British folk... Corrie, Eastenders, River City for starters. What more do they want?

Really? They represent real life, crikey, is it that dire in England?

Of course they don’t represent real life. Have you ever watched a soap?