Alec Baldwin - guns

Things that occur to me. Widely reported in the past that Baldwin has "anger issues" - but he is not only an actor but also a producer on the film, so he could do what he wants. Have read one report that the previous armourer had left after disagreements over safety issues (which is why a 24 year old was in charge of the guns). Halyna Hutchins was Ukraine and brought up on a Soviet military base - so the suspicion of more to this death than an accident has to be taken into account (which I'm sure the police are doing). And, yes, as others have said, with so much that CGI is doing now, what on earth are real guns doing on sets? Absolutely ridiculous. I hope Baldwin & Co get sued by her family - and that others learn the lessons as a result (the lessons clearly weren't learned when Brandon Lee died back in 1993.

I did read that it was a low budget film, so maybe safety corners were cut. Terrible tradegy.

As my hubby has just pointed out Alec Baldwin wasn't pointing the gun at the photographer or director he was just in a scene shooting the gun randomly and the "bullets" accidentally hit the photographer and director. i.e. he wasn't aiming at them at all

Surely if TWO people were shot he fired twice.

Apparently the director was begind the photographer and the bullet went through her and into him.

The had an armourer on set (24-yr-old woman, only 2nd time working on a film). There was a single live bullet in the gun.

Lots of reports about this from authoritative sources such as court records. AB was handed the gun aby an assistant director who said it was a 'cold gun', i.e. contained no live bullets.

Amazing that these so called prop guns are allowed to be used at all.
So very sad and heartbreaking for all concerned..

Oh my goodness.

So many people know what happened that you should probably all phone up the Santa Fe Police Department and let them have the benefit of your knowledge.

Now we've got a conspiracy theory about how she was probably assassinated and doesn't Baldwin have anger issues and surely he must have shot twice??

This thread is the definition of dangerous gossip.

I cannot believe that some of you are even thinking of suggesting that because Alec Baldwin has "anger management issues" he shot the poor victim on purpose!! Just listen to yourselves! A whole raft of things went wrong here. Perhaps if H&S hadn't been so poor some of the experts wouldn't have walked off set. If they hadn't done that the responsibility wouldn't have been left to a young inexperienced girl who handed a loaded gun to Alec. So just where does the buck stop?

Accidents with handguns aren't unheard of. There is a well known stage actor in Britain, David Birrell, lost his eye in 2010 while on stage at the Donmar Warehouse. A gun he was firing literally backfired and some of the debris hit him in the eye. He is still working but there is no doubt that the damage and the disfigurement will have affected his career. And I dread to think of the horror the audience must have felt.

Yes, it is a dreadful tradgedy and it is to be hoped will lead to firing blanks on film sets or on the stage being banned.

However, accidents do occur. Recently, a performer was killed at the Bolshoi theatre:

edition.cnn.com/2021/10/10/europe/bolshoi-theatre-performer-killed-intl-hnk/index.html

Baldwin is a Democrat and anti gun. Trump Jnr seems to find this amusing and has been tweeting about it. Disgraceful.

It is disgraceful. There is something deeply unpleasant about finding humour in any of this!

Such judgemental posts yet again before all the facts are released. It was a prop gun. The person responsible for the prop gun had caused a problem before.
Baldwin is the actor and director. His staff
was responsible for the prop gun. His past actions have no bearing on this accident. The husband has agreed with Baldwin it was an accident.

Why is this group so judgemental on so many issues.

What vile comments - from AB having anger management issues - one of his wives said so, to the poor lady victim having been from The Ukraine and brought up on a Soviet base, therefore some kind of target. Also AB is not the director, he’s one of the producers; which most star actors are in their films.

Alex Baldwin was married to Kim Basinger before his current wife, Hilaria, with whom he appears to be very happy. He’s been in a few scrapes with the paparazzi and also had an altercation over a parking space. Paparazzi are known for goading celebrities in order to get a better picture and loads of celebrities have been pictured fighting with them. Trying to say he has anger management issues so he has purposely shot two people, one of whom IS the director, is ridiculous.

It’s scary how some people get so involved and know so much about something they know hardly anything about. Thank goodness we no longer go around lynching people as there are some prime candidates to lead the mob on here.

Actually I think minimising the violent behaviour of people is equally as worrying. Saying that people who are attacked were goading is quite unpleasant. You have just done exactly what you are accusing others of doing.

I read that real ammunition was not used after the screen actors guild, headed by James Cagney, threatened to boycott any productions that used it. This was after a near fatal shot being fired during the making of Angels With Dirty Face in the 1940s. Is this not still the case?

I find what you have been saying even more unpleasant jumping onto a bandwagon of something you know nothing about. Hypocritical moralising at every opportunity.

This is manslaughter and Baldwin should face charges. It is not the first time his conduct has been called into question. I hope the poor woman's family sue him to kingdom come. There is NO excuse for what happened.

As my only comment was that there had been a previous fatality on a film set I dont feel i have done much moralising.

songstress60

This is manslaughter and Baldwin should face charges. It is not the first time his conduct has been called into question. I hope the poor woman's family sue him to kingdom come. There is NO excuse for what happened.

You are making shocking assumptions with no justification. None of what you say is based on truth. Her husband has said that he knows it was a terrible accident.

Your post is nonsense.

I was about to post in the same vein as you Alegrias but then realised that songstress60 probably has some insider information, from on set, that the rest of the world hasn't been informed of yet.

? Chewbacca

I hope some folk on here are never summoned to do jury service ?

I onder if tragically Baldwin has been targeted for his outspoken opposition to the rifle association of America and anti gun stance he's been quite vocal about? I sincerely hope not.its an absolute heartbreak for the young mum and her family. And why oh why in these times of CGI is ANYONE still using real weapons? Rubber ones look same and the rest can be faked!

Honestly razzy speculation and gossip is no friend of sincere sentiments. Perspex?! Right