The Princes and the Press

Alegrias1

Well I haven't seen all of it yet theworriedwell. So I don't know if its unbiased or not.

However looking at the comments on here there is a definite skewing towards the anti-M&H camp throughout it. Implications that things were said on the documentary that were obviously in support of M&H because look who said them and we know s/he's a liar. Or worse still, a Republican

As you pointed out those press people have done the same to William as to Harry so they aren't representing one side.

That's exactly my point...

Just wanted to add do you think that people seeing it as biased towards H&M might be because it was biased towards H&M?

Alegrias1

Well I haven't seen all of it yet theworriedwell. So I don't know if its unbiased or not.

However looking at the comments on here there is a definite skewing towards the anti-M&H camp throughout it. Implications that things were said on the documentary that were obviously in support of M&H because look who said them and we know s/he's a liar. Or worse still, a Republican

As you pointed out those press people have done the same to William as to Harry so they aren't representing one side.

That's exactly my point...

I suppose it is perception. To me it was as biased as much of what it was complaining about, I agree with much of what was said but unfortunately I think by being biased in some of what it presented they spoiled the argument.

Oh me, I found it. I don't think Hislop needs to worry about hordes of angry Scotsmen coming after him ??.

If there's a wrong end to the stick...

Anniebach

Agree Josianne. No such thing as a boring dog

What about Scots one?

Agree Josianne. No such thing as a boring dog

Anniebach

Hislop spoke of things about the royals which were boring,
Dogs, Scotland and a few more

Dogs, how dare he?

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

It just confirms to me that the media are only interested in making money for their particular employer and tell stories that sell papers or encourage people to watch a particular channel. It’s all gossip an opinion.

Can anyone explain why the royals became so upset with the latest BBC offering? It’s reported that it was a matter of protocol ie not showing it to them before broadcast.

Hislop spoke of things about the royals which were boring,
Dogs, Scotland and a few more

OK, I'm really confused. Can't find Hislop saying anything like that. I'll watch again after lunch.

It was near the beginning, Alegrias, something about life in Scotland being dull and boring and that the rest of us are not terribly jealous about it.
I have never been to Scotland, (I am told it is like beautiful NZ which I visit regularly), but just as bling suggests one thing to me the comment on Scotland suggests it is uninspiring and featureless. That is yet again putting a negative message across which may well be wrong, but which sticks.

You're not the only one commenting Josianne.

Still can't find the bit with Hislop making comments about Scotland...

However looking at the comments on here there is a definite skewing towards the anti-M&H camp throughout it. Implications that things were said on the documentary that were obviously in support of M&H because look who said them and we know s/he's a liar. Or worse still, a Republican.

Actually Alegrias if you look at my very first comment on Tuesday 23rd I shared the same thoughts about the presenter and Scobie, both supporters of M & H, as I still hold today. I dislike the one, but have time for the other - though many might disagree. So no skewing.

Well I haven't seen all of it yet theworriedwell. So I don't know if its unbiased or not.

However looking at the comments on here there is a definite skewing towards the anti-M&H camp throughout it. Implications that things were said on the documentary that were obviously in support of M&H because look who said them and we know s/he's a liar. Or worse still, a Republican

As you pointed out those press people have done the same to William as to Harry so they aren't representing one side.

That's exactly my point...

Alegrias1

^Make a programme about the press (media?) manipulating the story but make sure you spin it (manipulate it?) in a certain way.^

It wasn't made by Meghan and Harry though.

What about all those Royal correspondents who were asked to comment? What about the one who said that she had to pit Catherine against Meghan because that's how the world works?

And anybody who thinks it must have been made by H&M because that's what they're like, is falling for the manipulation of the press.

I'm not sure where you got that from. I don't think I said anything about H&M making the programme.

I don't think interviewing the people you are accusing of manipulating the story is the same as someone representing from one side have their say while the other side is left out. As you pointed out those press people have done the same to William as to Harry so they aren't representing one side.

Involving Meghan's solicitor, who let's face it is paid to argue her point of view because that is what lawyers do, and Scobie who is certainly used to put out the Sussex story is biased.

I suppose we could say that anyone who thinks it was entirely unbiased has fallen for the manipulation of the programme but that would be a bit rude.

Well JOSIANNE I haven't got to that bit yet. I'll maybe go and watch it now.

Make a programme about the press (media?) manipulating the story but make sure you spin it (manipulate it?) in a certain way.

It wasn't made by Meghan and Harry though.

What about all those Royal correspondents who were asked to comment? What about the one who said that she had to pit Catherine against Meghan because that's how the world works?

And anybody who thinks it must have been made by H&M because that's what they're like, is falling for the manipulation of the press.

Alegrias1

What?

Maybe we should have a heading that says something like "I don't want any comments on this thread from Poster X please because Poster Y and I are having a conversation about something else entirely".

I'll just slink off back to my corner.

Well the quote facility has been used by me multiple times on this thread to talk to the person I wanted to address.

Anyway, ALEGRIAS would you like to comment on what Ian Hislop said about Scotland? I would be jumping on that here too if he had said that about Devon. So no, not just bling!

Alegrias1

I was definitely watching another program then.

I was watching a program about how the press creates the story and manipulates public opinion. That's what Trevor Phillips literally said. But here we have another set of brickbats being thrown at people viewed as the baddies, even the reporters get some insults thrown their way because they think too highly of themselves and they dare to wear gold jewellery and have once said something we don't like about Catherine.

In the words of another thread, you couldn't make it up.

I think it is the hypocrisy that grates. Make a programme about the press (media?) manipulating the story but make sure you spin it (manipulate it?) in a certain way.

I have to say I haven't watched the 2nd episode but from the first I don't think it was balanced, the fact that Meghan's solicitor told us quite categorically that Meghan hadn't bullied anyone when she doesn't actually know that unless she has supervised her 24/7 for years and Scobie gave his view when we know that he has been fed info from Meghan but William was just invited to comment without knowing what he was commenting on doesn't seem balanced to me.

Calistemon

theworriedwell

Anniebach

New book written by an American, he knows it was Charles who questioned the skin colour of the baby and he even knows
Camilla’s reply.

Does he explain how he knows? I mean did he bug the house, has he discussed it with Camilla? Or has he listened to gossip or made it up.

A little bird told him

Wonder who?

Indeed.

What?

Maybe we should have a heading that says something like "I don't want any comments on this thread from Poster X please because Poster Y and I are having a conversation about something else entirely".

I'll just slink off back to my corner.

I wasn't talking to you Alegrias. Calistemon and I might have had our own discussions about fashion and its messages elsewhere.

I was definitely watching another program then.

I was watching a program about how the press creates the story and manipulates public opinion. That's what Trevor Phillips literally said. But here we have another set of brickbats being thrown at people viewed as the baddies, even the reporters get some insults thrown their way because they think too highly of themselves and they dare to wear gold jewellery and have once said something we don't like about Catherine.

In the words of another thread, you couldn't make it up.

GagaJo

Well yes, it is. Really, it should have been Hexit. Meghan is American. She was just going home. It was Harry that emigrated. But it's always the female that gets blamed. He is an adult and gets to make his own decisions.

So, Mex put a hex on Harry, and will turn him into one of the chickens next! Sorry!

Calistemon

I watched it half-heartedly (whilst doing something else) and did wonder how often Amol would put on an 'Oprah face'.

His jaw didn't drop quite as far as hers in her well-rehearsed reactions but often enough to notice that this wasn't a totally unbiased programme.

I can't stand him Calistemon, well actually that's ok because I'm usually sitting on the sofa, not standing!

He is so rude the way he just chucked the newspapers under the writers' noses with disdain, especially Camilla Tominey.
And all that horrible bling! Thinks very highly of himself.