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Anyone watching / watched “A very British scandal”?

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Kathy73 Mon 27-Dec-21 20:59:42

Anyone watched “A very British scandal”? Just watched the first episode; tempted to binge watch! A lot of people in it to feel sorry for - adults and children!

M0nica Mon 27-Dec-21 23:31:00

eazybee she was a product of her upbringing that was dysfunctional. Brought up in a mileu where a young girl was only of value as breeding stock or for her fortune and she clearly attracted high-powered male attention from a very young age.

What she became as an adult was as much formed by that priveleged and mercenary background as a girl from an impoverished home with a single parent of the kind that has a stream of men passing through the home so often follows in her mothers footsteps or becomes a drug addict. Both have been emotionally abused and have no pattern of a loving and supportive relationship to look back on as an exanple.

Galaxy Mon 27-Dec-21 23:32:50

Sorryhmm. A friend of mine had an abortion at a similar age, she was alone because the man was older and she didnt tell him. Horrific to happen to any child.

Calendargirl Tue 28-Dec-21 06:48:05

I’ve only watched the first episode. I googled Margaret, seems like she had a number of dalliances apart from David Niven. The Aly Khan was one, oh and the Duke of Kent also, when he was married.

She sounded what my dad would have termed ‘a rum un’.

Sparklefizz Tue 28-Dec-21 07:27:28

I'm halfway through it and find myself feeling sorry for Margaret. She was a victim of those misogynistic times when the woman was always to blame.

SkyBird Tue 28-Dec-21 07:56:51

If you use Google Image there are some really beautiful photographs of her.

I do believe that it was six of one & half a dozen of the other. However I do find myself feeling quite sorry for her. She bankrolled him for most of their marriage.
We are shown her infidelities but as yet not his.
She should have listened to wives one & two.

Kathy73 Tue 28-Dec-21 08:06:05

Calendargirl

I’ve only watched the first episode. I googled Margaret, seems like she had a number of dalliances apart from David Niven. The Aly Khan was one, oh and the Duke of Kent also, when he was married.

She sounded what my dad would have termed ‘a rum un’.

True - but what MOnica says is very pertinent -

she was a product of her upbringing that was dysfunctional. Brought up in a mileu where a young girl was only of value as breeding stock or for her fortune and she clearly attracted high-powered male attention from a very young age.What she became as an adult was as much formed by that priveleged and mercenary background as a girl from an impoverished home with a single parent of the kind that has a stream of men passing through the home so often follows in her mothers footsteps or becomes a drug addict. Both have been emotionally abused and have no pattern of a loving and supportive relationship to look back on as an exanple

notgran Tue 28-Dec-21 09:04:03

I enjoyed the series and binge watched it on i-Player. In my eyes everyone involved was awful and no one deserved sympathy. Lazy entitled people with no morals basically. However what a good yarn wonderfully acted and the locations were fantastic.

Calistemon Tue 28-Dec-21 10:08:35

she was a product of her upbringing that was dysfunctional

Do we know that for a fact?
She was brought up in New York, her father was a millionaire, she was educated privately but do we know that her upbringing was dysfunctional?

This series is portraying her more sympathetically and I think that is right because she spent the rest of her life with a dreadful reputation hanging over her as a result of the divorce. The Duke of Argyll sounds as if he was a monster but the aristocracy would label an outsider as the wrongdoer.

She was promiscuous from a young age but so were many in their circles.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Tue 28-Dec-21 12:12:17

I've enjoyed watching this and I have a very vague memory of the scandal at the time, being an avid reader of gossip columns back in the day. It looks like they deserved each other because of their behaviour, however she was unfairly treated because of the double standards then.
Apparently she died in near poverty in old age, after being taken for a ride by the beastly Duke.
Who'd marry a man with a castle, eh?

Jane43 Tue 28-Dec-21 12:49:18

I did wonder what happened to her after her father died as he seemed to be the one who paid for her lifestyle. Since he had married again presumably everything went to his second wife but perhaps there was a trust fund for Margaret. I did read something about her and apparently the accident we saw in some of the flashbacks was thought to be the cause of many of her problems, it was suggested she was a nymphomaniac because of the damage to her brain. I did enjoy the series but I didn’t think it was up to the standard of the one about Jeremy Thorpe.

grannie7 Tue 28-Dec-21 13:09:45

What gets me is that even in the TV piece very little has been made of that the Duke married all of his wives for their money, but mostly that he beat Margaret so much that sometimes she couldn’t open her eyes.He was a true b*****d
I am a Campbell descendant and of all the Dukes of Argyll in history he’s the one I am most ashamed off.
But did his behaviour count in the divorce-No his affairs his behaviour to his wife -No.Drugs -No
All it was about was Margaret’s affair’s but don’t think there is any evidence that there was 88 of them no sympathy for all the miscarriages and beatings she suffered, yes she was a socialite so that was the life she was raised in and was not by any means the only one
but she does seem to have paid a much bigger price than any of the others in the same company.

DerbyshireLass Tue 28-Dec-21 13:20:55

I felt really sorry for her.......double standards and misogyny ar work. One rule for the boys and one for the girls, a classic case of what we now call "slut shaming".

She was just a cash cow to him, once the money ran out her days were numbered.

MayBee70 Tue 28-Dec-21 14:25:15

I watched the final two episodes last night. It was very well done. Core Foy is so watchable: a very good actress.

Anniebach Tue 28-Dec-21 18:07:36

Wonder if the families were approached regarding the making of this series

MayBee70 Tue 28-Dec-21 18:57:06

I was wondering about that, given that her sons were only mentioned briefly in the first series.

Anniebach Tue 28-Dec-21 18:59:13

Her daughter is still alive

Jane43 Tue 28-Dec-21 19:44:36

Apparently after she married she had eight miscarriages before giving birth to a stillborn daughter, then she had a daughter and a son. as Anniebach says her daughter is still alive. Apparently many of Margaret’s male friends were homosexual but she couldn’t contest the claim that they were her lovers as homosexuality was illegal at the time of the trial. She saw a therapist for her stammer, the same man who treated King George VIth but he said it wasn’t treatable because it was because she was left handed but was forced to write with her right hand during childhood. So although she had a privileged upbringing with great family wealth her life was not a bed of roses.

Anniebach Tue 28-Dec-21 19:55:11

George 6 was left handed

MayBee70 Tue 28-Dec-21 20:00:01

Her escort friend implied that it would be impossible for him to have a relationship with her: I assumed he meant that he was gay.

Aveline Tue 28-Dec-21 20:08:25

The Duke seems to have been an unmitigated shit! It was an excellent production about a set of people with hollow almost pointless lives.
She certainly seems to have been unfairly treated..

Howjado Tue 28-Dec-21 21:38:47

Can someone explain why the Duchess went to the trouble of taking that damning photograph and keeping it!

Atqui Tue 28-Dec-21 21:59:23

Howjado - I wondered that too. Would love to know what V meant. They said it was never disclosed

Beswitched Tue 28-Dec-21 22:05:24

She's not coming across as a particularly admirable person but seems to have had a lot of problems in life. The Duke seems to have been a nasty piece of work. I wonder what his upbringing was like.
I thought they were hinting at some form of incest between Margaret and her father, but I probably got that wrong.

trisher Tue 28-Dec-21 22:10:05

Howjado it was done with a Polaroid camera. They were a very new innovation. One of the reasons the man is said to be Duncan Sandys is that one of the only Polaroids in the country was with the Ministry of Defence and he was the minister. I assume it was the equivalent of Dickpics today. AlthoughI believe there are said to be 2 men Douglas Fairbanks being the other. She seemed to hoard souvenirs and write about her sexual contacts..

Sassanach512 Tue 28-Dec-21 22:18:11

It was rather foolish to have that photo taken and keeping the diaries. The Duke was more crafty in that he left no evidence of his affairs. He must have been a thoroughly obnoxious man using women for the money they brought and then discarding them when the money ran out. The whole thing was stacked against Margaret, she was vilefied while he went on to marry yet another heiress and his castle restored at no expense to him, he was the disgusting one.