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Jimmy Carr. Loathsome A***

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FannyCornforth Sun 06-Feb-22 06:59:09

I’ve always despised the man.
I’ve just read what he said about Gypsy Roma Traveller people, and I’m just disgusted.
I’ve worked extensively with Roma children and their families.
He has said that his ‘joke’ was an excellent one because it was ‘educational’.
I wish him nothing but ill.

JaneJudge Sun 06-Feb-22 15:15:49

Galaxy

I loved Derek but rather stupidly I couldnt get beyond the how is this happening in a residential home. I was the same with The Dumping Ground (set in a childrens home) why do they only have 2 staff and this childrens home needs shutting down immediately grin

Yes, I know what you mean grin There was so much negative feedback about him playing a man with LD but my friend who has a son with complex needs said to me how good it was, so I reluctantly watched it but he made Derek so sweet and human and so likable and I often think the problem facing a lot of people with LDs is that people do not see them as human, when in reality they have a lot to offer.

I realise I have overthought it all too blush

Blossoming Sun 06-Feb-22 15:11:01

I’m afraid I’m just too thick to understand your posts Whitewavemark2 but thank you for attempting to educate me.

Galaxy Sun 06-Feb-22 15:10:00

I loved Derek but rather stupidly I couldnt get beyond the how is this happening in a residential home. I was the same with The Dumping Ground (set in a childrens home) why do they only have 2 staff and this childrens home needs shutting down immediately grin

Blossoming Sun 06-Feb-22 15:07:11

FannyCornforth

Talking of much missed comedians, they don’t come better of lovelier than Jeremy Hardy and Linda Smith.
I still feel sad when I think about Linda. She was so young ♥️

Me too.

JaneJudge Sun 06-Feb-22 14:59:33

I didn't used to like Ricky Gervais but I loved After Life series 1&2 and I have just watched Derek and loved that too.

Ailidh Sun 06-Feb-22 14:24:45

I hadn't heard of Jimmy Carr.

By the sound of it I don't miss what I've been missing.

Aveline Sun 06-Feb-22 14:05:24

Eric Morecambe. I was smiling even before he said anything. He was only ever offensive about Des O'Connor and Des loved it.

FannyCornforth Sun 06-Feb-22 13:28:30

Talking of much missed comedians, they don’t come better of lovelier than Jeremy Hardy and Linda Smith.
I still feel sad when I think about Linda. She was so young ♥️

TerriBull Sun 06-Feb-22 13:25:48

Jimmy Carr and Frankie Boyle, two loathsome, misogynists who really don't deserve a platform angry

Give me Ricky Gervais any day of the week and the much lamented late Sean Lock, now there was a man who was really funny

Sue450 Sun 06-Feb-22 12:03:35

I really don’t get the comedians these days. Their humour doesn’t make me laugh, Eric Sykes, Peter Sellers, Norman wisdom just made you laugh. Bringing political sarcasm into humour to me is not funny.
It can be very insulting as this incident is.

singingnutty Sun 06-Feb-22 12:01:33

Perhaps he is taking his lead from our esteemed PM by saying unacceptable things and then claiming of course that wasn't what he was meaning to say.

Callistemon21 Sun 06-Feb-22 11:58:42

Sago

I cannot and will not watch the smug **.
I want to smack his face with a frying pan?????

That! ?
More succinct than me

Callistemon21 Sun 06-Feb-22 11:57:54

I know what you're trying to say but I don't think it's the right way to go about educating the listener.

If he thinks the average listener is apparently too uneducated to understand his rhetoric then they'll either switch off in disgust or he will appeal to those who don't understand the subtlety and will cheer on his assumed prejudices.
It's too convoluted.

I dont think I'm thick but I do think he's odious and I know I'm being prejudiced but I can't even bear to look at him.

Sago Sun 06-Feb-22 11:55:40

I cannot and will not watch the smug **.
I want to smack his face with a frying pan?????

Larsonsmum Sun 06-Feb-22 11:50:11

This is SO outrageous - as has much of his material been long before this. This could well be the end of his career as a 'comedian'. Many would be pleased about that.

nanaK54 Sun 06-Feb-22 11:49:28

Riverwalk

I can see where he's coming from in a way.

There's a certain hypocrisy with those that shed tears about the Holocaust but would happily see Roma people banished from the UK, particularly if they were migrants from the EU.

Aren't we all a teensy weensy bit irritated, to say the least, with Travellers in the UK who often seem to be a law unto themselves with their illegal camps and not properly educating their children.

I think maybe Carr hit a raw nerve.

Surely there is a huge difference between being a 'teensy weensy bit irritated' and finding the fact that 500,000 Roma and Sinti men, women and children were sent to gas chambers is acceptable never mind funny?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 06-Feb-22 11:44:40

Blossoming

Well this has been an educational thread. I have learned that I don’t laugh at vile remarks (I won’t call them jokes) because I’m too stupid and/or uneducated.

No I don’t think that is right.

The way the conversation went was that Carr maintains that his horrible jokes (dark humour) are supposed to “educate” the listener. My argument would be that those who need educating of the historical facts will simply pick what they see as confirming their prejudice, and not look any more deeply.

My argument is that you would need to have an historical knowledge in order to understand his rhetoric, therefore more educated than some.

? I haven’t explained it very well

Blossoming Sun 06-Feb-22 11:25:10

Well this has been an educational thread. I have learned that I don’t laugh at vile remarks (I won’t call them jokes) because I’m too stupid and/or uneducated.

Callistemon21 Sun 06-Feb-22 11:14:57

He’s a properly decent person.

Properly decent people pay the tax they owe.

FannyCornforth Sun 06-Feb-22 11:12:51

Yes, the kindness just shines out from him envy

Whitewavemark2 Sun 06-Feb-22 11:06:32

Everyone is loved by someone. ?‍♀️

Victoria Coren Mitchell
@VictoriaCoren
· 15h
While I’m here, might take a moment to mention I also love @JimmyCarr, a close friend who’s made about a thousand jokes I wouldn’t make myself, as a stage performer, but as a man is full of goodness and kindness. He’s a properly decent person.

JaneJudge Sun 06-Feb-22 10:48:40

I was really surprised the BBC gave Boyle a TV series after all the comments he made regarding paedophilia alone!

I remember I went to see Newman and Baddiel, many, many years ago and there were jokes about those with disabilities and people got up and walked out! smile (I'm ashamed to say I didn't but I was with a friend)

Callistemon21 Sun 06-Feb-22 10:31:53

Galaxy

I loathe Boyle, another one where the misogyny is absolutely out there in the open. This is quite cathartic fanny smile

That's him, I couldn't remember his name.
Makes jokes about blind children.

Aveline Sun 06-Feb-22 10:31:06

Jimmy Carr? Yawn

Oldwoman70 Sun 06-Feb-22 10:28:39

Never listen to him so can't comment on this "joke" - but seeing that picture of him reminded me of a friend who described him as having "the most punchable face - especially when he laughs"