The Traitors - new reality show on BBC1

Nanatoone

Great twist tonight

I agree foxie48 - I don't usually watch reality programmes either. Amazing how the Traitors are so trusted by the others, isn't it Chestnut?

Not so keen on the challenge last night, but at least they had to figure it out as well...

Maddie's confession and then turning down the money offer were a revelation. I wouldn't have done either, in her shoes!

Then of course, the obligatory cliff-hanger ending...

I don't know what I would have done in Maddie's shoes. The odds are against her (or any of them) winning, so £3k in the hand is worth having, but a potential £120k is life-changing, and there may be media opportunities for the winner if they want them (eg appearing on The One Show or This Morning). £3k is very nice, but not life-changing.

OTOH, she is young and has more life ahead of her, so it could be that it would be life changing for her. We don't know the circumstances of the people involved. I thought the responses of the others to her choice was interesting, too. Again, £3k is a lot of money, but as a percentage of £120k it isn't, and getting rid of another possible winner has to be of greater advantage to the survivors, yet they all cheered her decision to stay.

What a horrible challenge. The haggis dangly bits are only an episode away, I tell you.
Maddy saved her skin by turning down the money as the faithfuls were plotting to banish her. They are so fickle when it comes to decision making.

But 19 of them will get nothing won’t they Doodle so £3000 is money in hand I think I would have probably be tempted to take it better than nothing which Maddy will probably get as her chance of winning now must be tiny tiny

The haggis dangly bits
Lol, hope not!

BlueBelle

But 19 of them will get nothing won’t they Doodle so £3000 is money in hand I think I would have probably be tempted to take it better than nothing which Maddy will probably get as her chance of winning now must be tiny tiny

Yes, that's true. I suppose it depends on how much of a gambler you (generic) are.

I'm not sure I would have gone for £3k, but I definitely would have done for £30k.

If there had been a round table last night Maddy was going to be voted out. We know that from having seen what the others were saying about her but she didn't have an inkling. She now knows that she's not as popular as she thought she was.

But she has redeemed herself by refusing the money and staying in the game. They will see she's a team player and the danger might have passed for her.

I hate reality shows but totally addicted to this.

But they aren't team players. That's the point .

I love watching the psychology behind programmes like this - I think that living closely with the others for so long, with only other contestants to talk to will mess with their heads. It's human nature to find someone to bond with and trust, so it must be difficult to know that everyone is ultimately going to try to 'kill' you, and that, coupled with having no-one to talk to about it, must be very difficult. It probably explains the histrionics.

Yes, more tears tonight. I could hardly believe how the men keep sobbing like babies. Kieran is a mature man and looks manly, but he talks like a teenager and cries like one. What has happened to men? They used to be made of much tougher stuff. Men were men and you could rely on them to climb cliff faces, fight in battles and sail pirate ships. Women needed rescuing and often fainted when shocked or scared. Now the roles seem to have been reversed.

I'm feeling like it's gone on just a bit too long. Next series maybe start with 15 rather than 22 people? Fewer episodes too?

I think the numbers were ok - fewer people would make it difficult for the traitors to hide, and you need that until they get settled in. I think it would have been much better if the episodes hadn’t been messed about by the football - the long gap in the middle destroyed some of the tension.

I’m absolutely loving this, and recommending it to all who haven’t yet seen or heard of it.

Doodledog

I think the numbers were ok - fewer people would make it difficult for the traitors to hide, and you need that until they get settled in. I think it would have been much better if the episodes hadn’t been messed about by the football - the long gap in the middle destroyed some of the tension.

Yes agree with this, and the football got in the way.... loving the psychology of it - I don't want it to end (Strictly too!) as it's so addictive.

Yes Chestnut - Kieran surprised me last night!

Who's applying to be in Series 2? Like dragonfly, I'm not really into reality TV, but love this (but not enough to apply!)

Maybe on every night for two weeks max? Stringing it out round the football really hasn't helped.

Well Wilfred is turning into a snake in the grass. However, I suspect that Amanda has the measure of him. I wish that Maddy was gone as her rabbiting on annoys me.

Parsley3

Well Wilfred is turning into a snake in the grass. However, I suspect that Amanda has the measure of him. I wish that Maddy was gone as her rabbiting on annoys me.

The thing is, though, that in the last episode someone is going to have to betray whoever is left - there is only one winner. So if it gets to the end and there are just Wilfred and Amanda left, she will have to be just as snakey as him, or lose.

That's the beauty of it, I think. I dislike treacherous people on other reality things, but there was no choice for the traitors, so I'm rooting for both of them, as I will probably do if others join them. Maddie is my least favourite - I'd like her to go next.

I don't know that only one person could win. If the last traitors or the last faithfuls win they could share. They were talking about that. Maddy risked her £3000 offer for the chance of a share in the final amount.

Oh. I didn’t realise that. Usually these things are a fight to the death, although I don’t know how they would eliminate someone if there were two left.

I’ll have to listen more carefully to the voiceover at the beginning next time.

Makes me laugh for years and years we ve been going on and on about ‘men should show their emotions more’ ‘women are the strong ones’ ‘ crying is good for you realesses the pent up emotions’’that’s why men die young’ blah blah blah

So poor men have listened and cottoned on ‘oh it’s ok to show emotion’ ‘we don’t have to have a stiff upper lip’

And now they are decried as weak …poor buggers can’t win can they 🤣🤣🤣

No, I agree, BlueBelle. I’m an equal opportunities grump . I don’t care which sex is wailing - I think it’s an overreaction on a game show. Actually the squealing is worse, really.

Sobbing on any reality show annoys me, but I suppose things can get very intense in a game like this.

I don't think we will end up with two, and one to murder the other. I think the final round will be more interesting than that. They must have thought of a way to eliminate a smaller group without giving away the identity of the traitors. I have no idea what that will be!

We have to wait until Wednesday for the next episode which is far too long for something like this. They need to have them closer together like I'm a celeb.....

Only two more episodes and 11 contestants. Maybe more than two eliminated each day (one murdered and one banished).

So poor men have listened and cottoned on ‘oh it’s ok to show emotion’ ‘we don’t have to have a stiff upper lip’
I agree men should allow their emotions through in real life, although we don't want them blubbing at any little thing. It's knowing where to draw the line.

But sobbing like Kieran did when Amos was murdered is ridiculous. He had only known him a couple of days and he was only out of the game. He hadn't died in real life. To see a mature man sobbing over something so trivial was rather feeble.