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^ If telling the truth hurts are you responsible for that hurt?^

You are if you sell it for a fortune and broadcast it across the whole world. If there are problems, sort them out in private.

Sparklefizz

^ If telling the truth hurts are you responsible for that hurt?^

You are if you sell it for a fortune and broadcast it across the whole world. If there are problems, sort them out in private.

Well if the family problems were private ones you would probably be entirely right. But they aren't. The disagreements in the family were headline news long before the split, then the split was headline news. If you can tell your story and make a living from it why not? At least you aren't taking public money.

What Gloriany says
I m not team anybody but it’s impossible not to see the divisions caused and driven by the Media .
There are many stories of estrangement. Most people would not want to see distorted one sided news reports on this

Lathyrus

I mean, when I first met OH, I as soon joyous I went round conferring blessings on anyone that strayed into my vicinity. And when someone jostled me on the underground I wreathed them in smiles😀

Wow! He must have been a looker😄

Harry and William always had my sympathy, losing a loving mother early in life and having it all played out in public.
The right woman could have made all the difference to him, staying in the RF and having a family here and doing all the stuff he liked such as Invictus games.He would have been popular too.
Meghan has brought out the very worst for him.☹️

Oreo

Harry and William always had my sympathy, losing a loving mother early in life and having it all played out in public.
The right woman could have made all the difference to him, staying in the RF and having a family here and doing all the stuff he liked such as Invictus games.He would have been popular too.
Meghan has brought out the very worst for him.☹️

But Oreo he is still doing the Invictus games and many other charitable causes and events, including Sentebale. He is also now, because he has severed his links with the RF able to express publicly his real views about things and to become involved in things which might have been considered controversial like Mexican refugee families. Look at the Archewell website if you want to see what he is up to. And Meghan has a proven track record of charity work and promoting women's causes quite how that is "the worst" I don't know.

Glorianny - I share your views on this. I’m genuinely puzzled also that it seems being either team HnM/team RF/team K n W seems an essential issue for so many
I’m not a royalist but can see the positives of a very slimmed down monarchy rather than elected hos. They’re a family, dealing with all kinds of stuff in the eye of a storm. I’m glad I’m not in their shoes- any of them

Glorianny
What I mean by being the worst for him is that she has encouraged him to leave his family behind, not just leaving the RF and starting a new life out of it all, which would have been ok, but to publicly rubbish his own family and constantly
Moan about his lot in life.She does the same with both his family and her own family.They both seem to enjoy having victim status, in spite of their lavish lifestyle.
If they had decided to leave the RF and go to the US to pursue
Charitable works and so on, all would be milk and honey.
They didn’t just do that tho.
Cutting family ties on both sides and living in their own bubble whilst making out they hate publicity has resulted in a real can of worms.They should shut up, middle aged and highly privileged as they are, and realise how most people live.

Glorianny If you can tell your story and make a living from it why not? At least you aren't taking public money.

Why not? Because it's all proven lies and unproven accusations. They are playing professional victims and branding the whole family as racist with the use of smoke and mirrors. I don't know how anyone can defend that kind of behaviour.

Her own family consists of her mother and a niece. There are half siblings who are many years older than her and who have a very dodgy record of criminality. Her half sister set up several social media accounts to hurl abuse at her. The niece hasn't had contact with her mother for many years. Quite how much are you supposed to take from your family before you say "enough"?

Even if you don't believe the RF are racist (and why wouldn't they be? this family's wealth partly comes from slavery). She felt they were racist, They both felt she was treated differently They both felt they were victims. They were unhappy, they had mental health problems. Even if you don't believe what they say they have a perfect right to say how they felt. They may have over reacted. They may be partly wrong, but all this put up and shut up is like something out of the 1950s when keeping quiet and popping pills was what was advised for unhappy women.

As for leaving and pursuing charitable causes, they were thrown to the wolves. The pictures of the Vancouver Island house and the media trying to access the LA house were extraordinary. Taylor Perry who owned the house said none of the celebrities who lived in the valley had seen a media attack like it. The RF had withdrawn their protection, perhaps they hoped they would be scared enough to return to the UK. As it was understanding people helped them. Of course they are rich and privileged but trying to stay out of the media didn't help them, they were just hunted down. Their security costs must be huge.

Glorianny Even if you don't believe what they say they have a perfect right to say how they felt. They may have over reacted. They may be partly wrong, but all this put up and shut up is like something out of the 1950s when keeping quiet and popping pills was what was advised for unhappy women.

No-one would mind them having a whinge if their claims were backed up with evidence, but there is no proof of anything. It's all smoke and mirrors and vague meaningless comments. Where they have made any specific claims there are numerous people citing these as lies (Meghan claiming no-one taught her her how to be royal or curtsy for instance, utter tosh). Their lies and accusations are very damaging and vindictive, and I just wish they would either shut up or produce some evidence for all these claims.

I'm referring to their claims against the RF not the media.

They have definitely be hunted and abused by the media, plenty of evidence of that.

Glorianny 👏👏👏👏. Thanks for your posts on H and M.

Iam64

Glorianny 👏👏👏👏. Thanks for your posts on H and M.

Ditto

Their lies and accusations are very damaging and vindictive, and I just wish they would either shut up or produce some evidence for all these claims

I haven't watched the series, and I won't, but I understand she criticised the Canadian police accusing them of not protecting her when she was living in Toronto when the news broke that she was seeing Harry.

The Canadian police have come out and denied this, saying it's not true and that they did give her protection and security.

Yet another unproven claim by Meghan .....

Iam64

Glorianny 👏👏👏👏. Thanks for your posts on H and M.

I agree. You watched the docuseries, you make a valid contribution. You give food for thought.

Sparklefizz

^Their lies and accusations are very damaging and vindictive, and I just wish they would either shut up or produce some evidence for all these claims^

I haven't watched the series, and I won't, but I understand she criticised the Canadian police accusing them of not protecting her when she was living in Toronto when the news broke that she was seeing Harry.

The Canadian police have come out and denied this, saying it's not true and that they did give her protection and security.

Yet another unproven claim by Meghan .....

Yes, there was an interesting comment ftom the Chief, (sorry I don't have time to find his name and title), that he didn't actually need to watch the series to know that Meghan was lying about the lax attitude of his police staff. Something along the lines that she was never in actual danger and that he had full confidence in the work of his team. It's back to what I meant about there are always people who are never going to be happy.

Some good points Glorianny but it is a non-sequitur to state that because someone's family made money from slavery 250+ years ago, ergo they are racist still now.

The RF had withdrawn their protection, perhaps they hoped they would be scared enough to return to the UK.
You are surmising and the facts disprove that.

Protection is only given to working royals and some working royals only receive protection when they are actually carrying out duties.

Oreo

Harry and William always had my sympathy, losing a loving mother early in life and having it all played out in public.
The right woman could have made all the difference to him, staying in the RF and having a family here and doing all the stuff he liked such as Invictus games.He would have been popular too.
Meghan has brought out the very worst for him.☹️

This fails to take into account that Harry was unhappy in the RF for years and spoke out against it saying things like "no one would want to do this" .

Harry wanted out for a long time before he met Meghan. Anyone blaming Meghan for him leaving is a fool.

Anyone thinking he should have stayed in the RF at the cost of his continued mental health is a fool.

Harry himself covered this is the documentary.

eazybee

Sadly, I don't believe anything Harry says anymore. He has lost touch with real life as he knew it, which was a strange world but one he was familiar with, and he has failed to replace it with a stable life where he feels comfortable.

So despite Harry saying himself that he is happy and has a stable life you don't believe it because..... ?

imaround is that you Meghan?

People having a different view to you doesn’t make them a fool.

Televised on Christmas Eve !

Harry wanted out for a long time before he met Meghan. Anyone blaming Meghan for him leaving is a fool.

Yes, he did.

I think Meghan provided a perfect escape route but I do think he could have announced that he would not be continuing as a working Royal and that they would be going to live quietly in America, when they got engaged or during the engagement.

They could have had a lovely, quiet private family wedding at their own expense, like his cousins, not the huge occasion it was, funded by the taxpayer.
Frogmore would not have had to be refurbished at such great expense (the taxpayer was refunded, I believe).
They would not have to undertake Royal tours, taken on huge projects such as the Commonwealth Canopy etc.

The huge publicity they received and the consequent drama of their departure caused a media frenzy so no wonder the press were camped at the door of their new home.

None of that need have happened if they'd said au revoir as soon as they married.

Harry himself covered this is the documentary

And you believe all he says because?