Can't believe I am watching this !

Deedaa

Carry on Cleo and Carry On Screaming were my favourites.

Mine too, especially Screaming.
Fenella Fielding as Valeria Watt😍

I had the box set until recently when I got rid of all my DVDs.

Just such an interesting bunch of performers, and a period in entertainment that I’m nostalgic for.

As well as Jim Dale (the voice of Harry Potter in the US), the other Carry On stunner (further to FF) Amanda Barrie is still alive and well.
She’s 89 and married to the author Hilary Bonner.

Cleo, Screaming and Up the Khyber are my favourites. It’s weird watching them with all the rules we have now, but there’s no F words or worse, no gruesome images and lots of laughs.

Agreed, it's astonishing when people condemn these old movies for being politically incorrect, then sit down and watch all the gratuitous violence, swearing and pornography we now have in movies and TV. All perfectly acceptable it seems.

When people say they are offended by old movies and TV I wonder why no-one cares that I am offended by what's on today!

Mollygo

Cleo, Screaming and Up the Khyber are my favourites. It’s weird watching them with all the rules we have now, but there’s no F words or worse, no gruesome images and lots of laughs.

Social conditioning by virtue seekers

I can't recall the exact words in one of the Carry Ons but one scene which tickles me is when Jim Dale's junior doctor is lusting over a female. He's asked whether there are symptoms like a fast pulse, high temperature and the like. He looks flustered and pulls at his tie. "I meant the patient!" roars the wonderful Hattie Jacques. Old time sexist comedy at its best.

We have watched some Dad's Army recently. What a timeless, wonderful comedy that is.

As for the Carry On films. There are so many likeable actors in them, I can forgive them lots of things.

I do find the world of my childhood shown in any film from 60/70s a comfort.
Only yesterday we wondered how ‘Carry on’ had been banned by the woke police.

did you forget the 'not'?

Another time, another world ...

Yes, watched South Pacific and was truly shocked. I did see it at the time, and it all seemed pretty 'normal' - but watching it again made me scream with 'colionialism' and out and out racism. How times changed - it really got to me.

Mind you, I remember cow-boys and Indian films in the 50s and actually believed the Indians were the 'baddies' and the cowboys the 'goodies'.

Yes, watched South Pacific and was truly shocked.

We went to see it at the theatre and took my son. He couldn't believe what he was seeing.

I’m afraid I really didn’t like any of the above, not my type of humour. The worst of which being Til Death Us Do Part. I did like Tony Hancock though.
Doris Day - Calamity Jane, I have lost count how many times I have watched it.
Most old classic films are more my taste.

Fleurpepper

Yes, watched South Pacific and was truly shocked. I did see it at the time, and it all seemed pretty 'normal' - but watching it again made me scream with 'colionialism' and out and out racism. How times changed - it really got to me.

Mind you, I remember cow-boys and Indian films in the 50s and actually believed the Indians were the 'baddies' and the cowboys the 'goodies'.

South Pacific also makes a strong point about racism and prejudice in the song “You’ve Got To Be Carefully Taught” which was very enlightened for its period and considered radical in its exposure of racial issues on the American stage… the legend of Rodgers and Hammerstein's use of the Broadway theatre to make a courageous statement against racial bigotry is the very foundation on which the work is considered a classic.

I think you may have missed the point Fleurpepper.

MawtheMerrier

I think you may have missed the point Fleurpepper.

The premise is good but I think there are some things in there that are still quite shocking to young people because they live in an entirely different world!

The premise is good but I think there are some things in there that are still quite shocking to young people because they live in an entirely different world!
Don’t we all?

Yes, the song, and the final outcome. NO, I didn't get the wrong end of the stick. But the very fact the song was needed, and the 'example' at the end- says it all.

As for the mother giving her child daughter to a USA soldier, it was, as said above truly shocking.

I give up.

MawtheMerrier

^The premise is good but I think there are some things in there that are still quite shocking to young people because they live in an entirely different world!^
Don’t we all?

Yes but we have known different times, they haven't.

icanhandthemback

MawtheMerrier

The premise is good but I think there are some things in there that are still quite shocking to young people because they live in an entirely different world!
Don’t we all?

Yes but we have known different times, they haven't.

Fair enough, but we on GN are what we were talking about. I can’t imagine Fleurpepper fits the demographic to which you refer.

We should all (young, old, every thing in between) be able to understand history and context.
There are loads of things in the past, recent and not so recent, that are ‘shocking’.
It doesn’t mean that they should be hidden from view.

MawtheMerrier

I give up.

Is that a promise?

Of course I am the same age group as most here, but quite capable of looking at things from the past and see it with the eyes and realities of today.

Can you imagine today the uproar if a mother from a colonised country 'gave' her child daughter to an army officer?

FannyCornforth

We should all (young, old, every thing in between) be able to understand history and context.
There are loads of things in the past, recent and not so recent, that are ‘shocking’.
It doesn’t mean that they should be hidden from view.

Of course not. But it does make you think, and that is good, surely? History is so often told, be it in history books, films, novels, etc- from the eyes of the 'conqueror/winner' and we used to accept this, to the extent that we did not even notice.

Nowdays, it truly 'jumps' at you, and as said in the OP, it is quite shocking. What is most 'shocking' is that it didn't shock- at the time.

HowVeryDareYou

Are any/many of the Carry On cast still alive? I couldn't understand how any woman could have ever been attracted to Sid James

I heard a lot of noise of guns going off in the sitting room and said to DH "What are you watching?!"
It was Carry on Cowboy!

I sat with a cuppa and got strangely drawn into it 😁

I asked if any are still with us, HowVeryDareYou, I think Jim Dale is.

And I'd forgotten that Jim Dale is really rather handsome! 🙂

MawtheMerrier

Fleurpepper

Yes, watched South Pacific and was truly shocked. I did see it at the time, and it all seemed pretty 'normal' - but watching it again made me scream with 'colionialism' and out and out racism. How times changed - it really got to me.

Mind you, I remember cow-boys and Indian films in the 50s and actually believed the Indians were the 'baddies' and the cowboys the 'goodies'.

South Pacific also makes a strong point about racism and prejudice in the song “You’ve Got To Be Carefully Taught” which was very enlightened for its period and considered radical in its exposure of racial issues on the American stage… the legend of Rodgers and Hammerstein's use of the Broadway theatre to make a courageous statement against racial bigotry is the very foundation on which the work is considered a classic.

But the Carry On aren't bad
They are send-ups and never meant to taken seriously!

Yes, I agreechestnut

As for South Pacific - if people don't understand that it was exploring racism, referring in that song to how it was passed down the generations in America, then they miss the point entirely.

The Lieutenant truly loved the Asian girl but felt he could never marry her as his family's expectations were different.

The fact that Nellie did overcome her learned prejudices and marry her love, the father of two mixed-race children, is another reference to the racism which was accepted in America in those times.

The film makes a statement against racism.

Interesting Gransnet Fact:
You’re going to love this! 😍
Pheonix’s mother dated Jim Dale!
She mentioned it on the ‘Odd claims to fame’ thread.
I was incredibly impressed and asked Pheonix if her mother was very beautiful, and she replied that she thought that she probably was.