well, here it is, Harry interview itv 9pm

Thank you Glorianny. So from the early 2020 Oprah interview to last night's Tom Bradby interview did you not notice a shift in Harry's attitude? From being reluctant to disclose much information earlier on but going in all guns blazing now, particularly on his brother and Camilla? Some of the personal stuff he was bringing up last night showed far more of his anxieties, I thought.

Retired mental health nurses are not qualified to diagnose as you should know if you are interested in mental health. Even a qualified psychiatrist would hesitate to diagnose just by watching a TV interview.
Diagnosing any mental health issue involves long and detailed interviews and observation. It can't be done in a few minutes.

I’m not diagnosing anything either, but I don’t think there is anything baffling about the fact that women with sons of around Harry’s age seeing a clearly vulnerable and unhappy (by his own admission) young man will express concern.

I am far from being a royalist, but can feel sympathy on a human level, and there is no point in apportioning blame, as none of us knows more than anyone else about what happened, and in any case, what is distressing to one person can wash over another so even if we’d witnessed it all we’d be no wiser.

Glorianny what proof do you have to substantiate your statement?

ronib

OnwardandUpward

If I was KC I would be looking at getting him into a treatment centre for assessment, rest, recuperation and support.

If he carries on in this disordered way, who knows who he will damage next. He's already put himself and his family in danger because he is not acting in the best interests of himself or his family.

No doubt terrible things have happened, for example Jeremy Clarkson's vile comments.

Even KC3 can’t have PH treated by a psychiatrist as PH is over 18 without PH’s agreement.

Seems possible that
1. PH could have a treatable condition such as schizophrenia or psychosis and anti psychotic medication is usually prescribed. Talking therapy is not appropriate at the moment.
2. It’s very distressing for the family of PH and everyone probably feels quite helpless.
3. PH is very much in the public eye and that might delay effective treatment.
4. I recognise that the RF is unlikely to be reading our advice and we all need to concentrate on our own health issues!
Any mental health nurses on GN?

Not from this distance, unfortunately. If PH was in this country KC might be able to get him sectioned if he didn't agree to have voluntary treatment or assessment.

In the UK, a person who is sectioned will normally have been visited by several different MH practitioners first to assess them. They will have been encouraged to go voluntarily so they don't have to be sectioned, but if they are deemed to be so ill that their refusal causes much concern then they can have a section applied and be forced to have treatment.

I'm not a MH nurse, but my son was sectioned. He blames me for it, but as I have told him many times no one can arrange for a relative to be sectioned if they are not ill. indeed no one's relative can be sectioned unless several Dr's recommend it and if voluntary treatment is turned down. We are not in Victorian times now and the only people who get put into hospital are those deemed ill enough by the assessments of the many MH practitioner who visit.

Joseanne

Thank you Glorianny. So from the early 2020 Oprah interview to last night's Tom Bradby interview did you not notice a shift in Harry's attitude? From being reluctant to disclose much information earlier on but going in all guns blazing now, particularly on his brother and Camilla? Some of the personal stuff he was bringing up last night showed far more of his anxieties, I thought.

We all shift attitudes Joseanne it's part of being human.
Televised interviews are highly dependant on who is interviewing, the purpose of the interview, and the sort of impression the producers want to project.
Of course he was reluctant to disclose in the OW interview, he would already know he intended to release a book.

Maybe, but what you say makes me feel even more uneasy that he isn't finished yet with all this yet and that there will be more heart break all round.
Perhaps I am just in high alert which is why I fear for him. We all react differently.

The amateur MH specialists on GN might like to consider the "Scapegoat Child" and the dysfunctional family, wonder about Harry, and if Louis is to be his replacement.

Of course he was reluctant to disclose in the OW interview, he would already know he intended to release a book.
Ouch, that is beginning to sound very calculating and manipulative. And chasing the money again.

Glorianny

The amateur MH specialists on GN might like to consider the "Scapegoat Child" and the dysfunctional family, wonder about Harry, and if Louis is to be his replacement.

No this amateur just listened, watched and wondered about one person in pain. No need to go into overdrive!

Why? We aren't scapegoating . We are suggesting help. There is a difference between being concerned and discussing MH help and scapegoating someone.

At no point have I blamed H for the wrong doings of others (that would count as scapegoating) but I have discussed things he has done, which are factual and therefore not scapegoating.

For all we know, PH might be on medication anyway and true it’s not our issue. So best let him and his family sort it out as quietly as they can.

Yes. Quietly would be the way to go. The trouble is ,he will find that very hard now that he has opened Pandora’s box. Perhaps that is the way he likes it,though, on the world’s stage ? - God for Harry, England and Saint Charles ?

nanna8

Yes. Quietly would be the way to go. The trouble is ,he will find that very hard now that he has opened Pandora’s box. Perhaps that is the way he likes it,though, on the world’s stage ? - God for Harry, England and Saint Charles ?

I have full use of my tv remote and thankfully for me, it’s going to be used. We don’t have to be sucked along.

As for the book, have already suggested that a charity working for children such as Barnados is a better recipient of a donation. Penguin Random House should be ashamed.

Just hope there isn’t a t shirt!

Bet there will be though, ronib. Hats as well !

Without wishing to be uncaring, I’m not really concerned about what Harry has to say, nor about his health, mental or otherwise. He has enough money, staff, and resources to sort himself out. I’m more concerned about those who have mental health issues and haven’t got the resources to sort themselves out, whether it’s through a lack of money or a lack of the ability to access help. Meghan and Harry both have access to all the help, support, and resources they need to live a healthy and happy life without any need to bore us all rigid with tales of brothers fighting, his frostbitten penis, or who had the biggest bedroom.

Based on everything I’ve seen printed / discussed in the press, or the snippets of interviews with PH I’ve heard, he doesn’t appear to be a danger to himself or others. So, no reason for him to be subject to a Section under the mental health act.

Like many adults who experienced trauma in childhood, he’s troubled. He acknowledges he’s been anxious, depressed and has a diagnosis of ptsd. He’s paying for therapy and reflecting in an attempt to improve his m.h and quality of life.

I wouldn’t want to be living all of that in the public eye as he’s choosing to do. That choice doesn’t make him schizophrenic or psychotic as ‘some posters’ have suggested.

PH has said he was still using cannabis and would go out into the garden to smoke it while Meghan and Archie were asleep. I think his admitted use of a variety of drugs hasn't helped his mental state.

I think he is a danger to himself and others re the Taliban thing.

But hey, he is not my responsibility and for that I'm glad. I'm thankful not to be related to him or therefore at risk from the things he says.

The old adage is simply true. Money and fame can't buy happiness.
Harry is not happy.

He mocked William for losing his hair (which is unkind and body-shaming) but if he checked the back of his own head in the mirror, he would see he is fast catching up.

It is deliberately unkind, and cruel because he knows W cannot reply. Indeed we have already seen private texts leaked, so I can totally understand no one in his family wanting that to happen again (or giving him any more fodder for any more books)

OnwardandUpward

It is deliberately unkind, and cruel because he knows W cannot reply. Indeed we have already seen private texts leaked, so I can totally understand no one in his family wanting that to happen again (or giving him any more fodder for any more books)

... and when he doesn't get "any more fodder", he simply makes things up

I can’t understand his willingness to share so much information about his drug use? It has been reported this could affect his next visa application so surely he’s been advised to keep quiet about it?

The story about him using all the laughing gas to calm his nerves during Archie’s birth so there was none left for Meghan is the stuff of sit-coms so either it’s not to be taken seriously or he really does have an addictive personality.

As Elton John would say, ‘He’s not a well bunny!’

Sparklefizz

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It is deliberately unkind, and cruel because he knows W cannot reply. Indeed we have already seen private texts leaked, so I can totally understand no one in his family wanting that to happen again (or giving him any more fodder for any more books)

... and when he doesn't get "any more fodder", he simply makes things up

It certainly seems that way!

Who among us, in the RF's position (having seen the text between K&M in public) would actually send H a text right now? Even knowing he will probably put it in the public realm?