Phillip schofield

Phillip admitted he lied about the affair as Matthew told his lawyer the truth. He then had no choice. He was 15 when Scofield started grooming him. This looks very much to me like the 'casting couch' where Phillip got him an interview on the show for a job, then became his 'mentor' in return for what? He was groomed and used by Scofield imo.
I really like This Morning and watch parts of it most days so I hope it doesn't close. Wish we could have Eamon and Ruth back and Lorraine Kelly. Holly is OK but not really my favourite.
Regardless of all he's done I thought Phillip was a brilliant presenter. Sadly, people like this are very often very likeable- just look at Jimmy Savile and Rolf Harris. That's why they often go under the radar.......

I don't watch This Morning but I do watch Dancing on Ice, and I've always thought Holly was too gushing and "nicey nicey" and that there was a core of steel underneath. She's not my cup of tea at all.

To add fuel to the fire! I was listening to some woman on tv last night talking about this. She used to be a practising solicitor so knows the law. She was asked about an injunction and replied that she wasn’t aware of an injunction regarding this young man but was aware of other injunctions concerning other people. She said ITV have very good lawyers. Basically all this talk of an injunction is true but it’s not with the young man we think it is.

I don’t watch This Morning but I don’t for one minute believe there’s all this attention from journalists and newspapers etc over PS having a relationship with this young man. There has to be more and they’re just waiting for the go ahead to go ahead and release it.

Hmm I wonder who the induction was for? Perhaps other young men?

sazz1

Hmm I wonder who the induction was for? Perhaps other young men?

I think that, because he rose to fame at a time when he had to hide his homosexuality, he probably tried to suppress it even to himself. I don’t believe that he’s evil in the way that Saville and Harris were. I hope I’m right and that sordid details don’t emerge.

I don't think that describing a sexual relationship between a teenager and a man aged 55+ as an 'affair' is helping really. He met Mm when he was a child, which matters, whether or not he was 'legal' when they first have sex.

How would people feel about a grandchild having sex with a man 40 years older, particularly if he had known your grandchild since he or she was 12?

This is not about homophobia - it'a about grooming. And it doesn't stop with PS. People knew about it - there are plenty of videos and articles out there if you want to look. I am not in the 'blame Holly' camp on this. Ruth Langsford lost her job when she complained about the way the runner was treated, and Holly could have done likewise. She is not responsible for PS's behaviour, and the 'coming out' nonsense was orchestrated by ITV to get sympathy for the 'bravery' of acknowledging Schofield's homosexuality (or whatever his sexuality is - I'm no expert, but believe that an interest in children of either sex is entirely separate from being gay). I'm not a great fan of Holly, but blaming her for what PS did is starting to look like sexism.

As for the 'super injunction' - I doubt that GSM is reading this thread, but I'd like to hear from someone with legal knowledge whether it is possible to pay to silence people legally. That goes against all notions of justice, and I don't know how it can be enforced. A Non-Disclosure Agreement is far more likely, as that is signed by both parties and is between them (in this case probably MM and PS). My guess is that PS paid MM to be quiet, and that the period of the NDA has ended, or is about to end.

I do know that PS paid £30k a month to his PR team for crisis management, so maybe that's where the confusion (if there is any) has arisen.

There will be serious questions to answer if ITV bosses were aware of what was going on and did nothing. Not necessarily because of PS having a 'relationship' with MM if it was, indeed, legal, but because of the way MM was treated, and the way those who spoke out about that treatment were sidelined. There may, of course, be more to come out (I wouldn't be surprised) but there is enough in the public domain already to show that PS was not 'thrown under a bus'. Not by a long way.

As for his statements about lying - for heaven's sake! If this was an 'affair', why would he admit it? Why would he be under any obligation to tell his employer about it? Or anyone else for that matter? Sadly, the wife is often the last to know too - the very nature of affairs is that they are secret. It has to have been more than that. Affairs happen all the time, particularly in workplaces, and people are not sacked unless there is another story. Didn't Rylan's marriage end because of adultery? He (rightly) wasn't sacked for that, as it was between him, his husband and the other man/men (I don't know the detail).

This Morning may be a popular show with its viewers, but the audience is relatively limited because of the time it goes out, and the fact that the story of PS's 'resignation' is all over the papers and all the TV news programmes shows that this is not as simple as it seems.

I agree about the term affair, the trouble is I dont know what else the papers can do at the moment. The Mail have in their inimitable style gone as far as they can go. They have been pretty much trying to wave a red flag for months.

The media is setting the stage or keeping the story in the public eye, waiting for the next revelation, which they know but can't say yet.
Its becoming the Saville moment for the Itv.

Excellent post Doodledog

So the person he had an affair with is the same person he knew from age 10?

Yes.

No that's just not ok, whether he has actually broken the law or not... I can't understand that at all.

and his brother has been convicted of paedophilia too, it is bloody awful and good old Eamon and Ruth were sacked for pointing out what was happening

Until any facts are known this is all speculation and very unpleasant speculation too. Yes his brother is a convicted paedophile and was tried and convicted in a court of law.

That should also be the case for PS if there's a case to answer, not a trial by media.

Smileless2012

Until any facts are known this is all speculation and very unpleasant speculation too. Yes his brother is a convicted paedophile and was tried and convicted in a court of law.

That should also be the case for PS if there's a case to answer, not a trial by media.

I completely agree Smileless2012, I’ve been watching this thread with mounting concern. It’s like the crowds gathering for a public hanging.

Yeah, but when NDAs are in place and people are sacked for speaking out it muddies the waters, doesn't it?

How are people supposed to get justice in an atmosphere like that?

I quite agree that reading something isn't knowing it, but this has been rumbling on for years now - online and amongst people who work in the media and know the people involved. It's not a sudden demonisation of Schofield that has come out of the blue.

How are people supposed to get justice in an atmosphere like we're seeing here Doodledog?

If you google Matthew Mcgreevy quite a few articles come up about how inappropriate his behaviour has been. Eamon and Ruth have spoken out about it too.

And so it goes on .

Idk

I don't think anyone should be having relationships with people they have known as small children while adults

Plenty of other fish in the sea

Maybe I'm being a judgemental git but it just makes me very uncomfortable

He was his mentor since he was 10 years old. I cannot defend that, whether he started the sexual relationship when he was 16 or not but also

Anyone aged 16 or over, regardless of gender or sexuality can legally consent to sex. There are exceptions to this rule. It is illegal for anyone in a position of trust to have sexual contact with anyone aged 17 or under who is in their care

PS says he didnt act illegally. My best guess is that he didnt.
But I wouldnt feel comfortable with a youngor teenage son of mine having a presumably close friendship with someone of 53, outside of a very trusted family member. Personally. Mentor or not.

Just to be clear, the young man in question is now 27. In 2019 when the reports surfaced he was 23. He started working for ITV at age 18. I’m not defending PS in any way, but this gossip is dangerous when the actual facts are not known.

lets say my 15yo son has a 50yo PE teacher who coaches him. My son leaves school age 18 and has a sexual relationship with the PE teacher. Is that appropriate? as that is what is being described and admitted to. A mentor, a coach, a teacher, someone in a position of power with access to a child who is now an adult.

JaneJudge

lets say my 15yo son has a 50yo PE teacher who coaches him. My son leaves school age 18 and has a sexual relationship with the PE teacher. Is that appropriate? as that is what is being described and admitted to. A mentor, a coach, a teacher, someone in a position of power with access to a child who is now an adult.

The issue I have JaneJudge is with the assumption that the young man was 16, 18 or whatever, because that is not currently a fact that is in the public domain. For all we know he was 22, and had previously had sexual relations with many other men. I’m not saying he did of course, just that the rumour mill is currently running riot with no evidence.