World On Fire, BBC iPlayer

Felt like parts of last night’s episode resembled ‘Allo ‘Allo’, or a ‘Carry On’ film.

The first series seemed much more believable.

The story is spread far too wide. I have a feeling several characters are going to end up in the field hospital in Tobruk, (if that is where it is.)
I knew the Nazis were trying to produce an Aryan master race, but was it really as calculated as that, with sixteen-year old girls? Like 'The Handmaid's Tale'.

eazybee

The story is spread far too wide. I have a feeling several characters are going to end up in the field hospital in Tobruk, (if that is where it is.)
I knew the Nazis were trying to produce an Aryan master race, but was it really as calculated as that, with sixteen-year old girls? Like 'The Handmaid's Tale'.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn

Yes it was calculated. I believe it was another master plan from that monster Heinrich Himmler.

I watched the first series to the end and wasn't impressed. Thought I'd give series 2 a chance but gave up after the 2nd episode.
I'm not surprised Sean Bean wasn't in it. I'm guessing he gave up too.

fiorentina51

I watched the first series to the end and wasn't impressed. Thought I'd give series 2 a chance but gave up after the 2nd episode.
I'm not surprised Sean Bean wasn't in it. I'm guessing he gave up too.

He needed a strong cup of Yorkshire to recover from it!

What a stroke of luck that Lois just happened to be at the field hospital where Harry was.

‘In all the field hospitals in all of Egypt…..’

That's more or less what I said, Calendargirl!

"Of all the field hospitals in all the countries in all the world, she walks into mine”

Hope you used the appropriate accent when you said it 😁

I’ve watched all of them now so I’m being careful not to give anything away but it’s a shame it’s so low budget. Nothing wrong with the individual story lines but six episodes is not long enough to do them all justice and it’s littered with inaccuracies.

I watched the first series and it was OK any inadequacies were compensated for by Sean Bean. Watched the first episode of the second series and gave up. Manchester wasn't heavily bombed. There were a couple of big raids. It's so easy now to look up these things.

Shame about the second series being a bit lame. I’ve only watched the first episode but will catchup and probably binge watch.
The first series had (I thought anyway) good quality acting and had a depth to it that made sense of the multi faceted story line.
I gleaned from episode one that Sean Beans character has died, his face now relegated to a small framed photograph on the side. No explanation, just hints and one instance of his character being referred to.
It’s as though the makers of this series have rationed the script as though they are in a hurry to get it all over with asap.😼

I find myself admiring Kasia’s immaculate hair.

It always looks beautifully styled and ‘swingy’, and quite a modern cut for the war years, I would think.

Never out of place, never looks greasy or messy, whatever she’s doing.

A real blonde bombshell.

My mother is German, born in 1931 so grew up in Nazi Germany. The Lebensborn plot line in the series isn’t based on fact which makes me quite cross. I wonder why the writers thought it was ok to distort history?

Well the lebensborn scheme certainly did exist. I don’t know what part of it is misrepresented on this programme, but possibly the age of the girls. But there’s no doubt that it existed. German women were also given medals for how many children they had. Nonetheless the lebensborn scheme pales into insignificance compared to other crimes the Nazis committed.

Calendargirl

I find myself admiring Kasia’s immaculate hair.

It always looks beautifully styled and ‘swingy’, and quite a modern cut for the war years, I would think.

Never out of place, never looks greasy or messy, whatever she’s doing.

A real blonde bombshell.

Yes, altogether an unusual hairstyle for a young woman in the 1940s.
Even the Pageboy was curled under.

LaCrepescule

My mother is German, born in 1931 so grew up in Nazi Germany. The Lebensborn plot line in the series isn’t based on fact which makes me quite cross. I wonder why the writers thought it was ok to distort history?

It is fact.

elibrary.westminster.gov.uk/client/en_GB/wcc/search/detailnonmodal/ent:$002f$002fSD_ILS$002f0$002fSD_ILS:1201899/one?qu=Oelhafen%2C+Ingrid+von&ic=true&ps=300&h=0
Written by a child born of the Lebensborn programme.

Hans Kaminski, the freelance researcher who discovered the files, said yesterday that at least 7,000 children were born under the project, which ran from 1935 until 1945. Most are still alive.
www.theguardian.com/world/1999/nov/19/johnhooper
Guardian, 1999

German school children were not taught about the horrors the Nazis perpetrated on others, until well after the war.
They are now, of course.

I’m rather Kasia hair envious too. It’s gorgeous.

I'm sorry to hear that Lacrepescule it must be painful to watch.

I missed the first series so I don't really know what's going on but it seems that everything which may have happened in World War 2 is being squeezed into each episode!
It's watchable anyway.

Thanks for the link Callistemon. The lebensborn scheme definitely existed, as you rightly say. LaCrepescule’s mother may well have been too young to know much, if anything, about it at the time, but no excuse for denying it now.

it seems that everything which may have happened in World War 2 is being squeezed into each episode!

Rather like Ten Pound Poms, every possible eventuality covered in six episodes!

I don’t doubt the Lebensborn programme because it did exist. It’s just that young women weren’t actually raped and their children taken from them. I don’t like it when facts are misrepresented.

My mum doesn’t deny it but she grew up in Nazi Germany and has a fair idea of what went on.

LaCrepescule

I don’t doubt the Lebensborn programme because it did exist. It’s just that young women weren’t actually raped and their children taken from them. I don’t like it when facts are misrepresented.

Were they forcibly raped in the tv programme? I don't think so. They looked very keen to participate.

The children were taken and adopted by "good Aryan couples".
If that was not the case, why were so many trying to trace their birth parents all those years later?

I knew that in Germany at that time women were encouraged to have large families and rewarded if they had more than a certain amount. Not sure if how many.
Also that girls of about 14 spent about a year with another Family to learn about children, cooking, looking after a home etc to prepare for marriage.
My mum born mid 1920 s
grew up under the nazis too.

My friend born in the 1930s did too, but not everyone was happy with the Nazis and their plans.

I’m glad next week’s is the last episode.

Far too much jumping about.

Fighting in the desert, sorry that Sergeant Stan didn’t make it, then we leap to a roast chicken dinner in Lesley Manville’s dining room, followed by the nurse and wounded pilot drinking cider in a straw filled French barn, then Lois nursing a motherless baby in her tent in Egypt.

Plus Kasia interrogating a Polish spy as part of MI5 or something, before a convenient suicide.

Goodness knows what will happen in series 3, assuming it gets commissioned.