The Archers

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Wyllow3 we know Will isn't being prosecuted but is Emma?

That’s what I wondered, but I’m an omnibus listener, so will have to wait. For me, throwing that into the mix spoiled that storyline, which has been one of the better ones ( apart from Harrison’s OTT reaction).
I’m finding so many of the characters very annoying these days, in fact Jazzer and Lillian are about the only two who don’t annoy me!

And where is Ian being school parent of the year going to lead?

The BBC is capitalising on the popularity of The Archers among millennials with a new official podcast about the longstanding show. This will be exclusively on BBS sounds and go out at 7.15 starting on October 11th the day of George’s sentencing

I had no idea they were even listening eGJ.

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Now what about George getting a cosy suspended sentence, Alice forgives him, Harrison forgives him, ditto Fallon etc, etc, and everyone kisses and makes up - just in time for Christmas - and all the bitter, mean, angry and spiteful recriminations are swept away and everyone crowds into The Bull to toast each others' health with that sodding Mulled Wine that gets wheeled out every year?

All in a spirit of Forgive & Forget.

Just like Real Life, innit?

Well, it is an everyday story of country folk after all. Country folk are like that - aren’t they?

I cant help it but I don't like Alice. Never have.
I have always really liked Emma, who I know isnt that popular (or certainly wasnt on MN)

Wow! That was a good episode. Emma needs to be thankful it wasn’t a longer sentence and he probably won’t have to serve the whole three years.

I’m quite surprised that George was given a custodial sentence, especially as there were some strong mitigating circumstances, he showed genuine remorse and insight into what he’d done, and had some supportive character references. I doubt he’ll come out of prison a better man.

The conscious act of deception to put blame on Alice and Harry. Perverting the course of justice rarely gets anything other than a custodial sentence. People rarely come out of prison better people.??

I’m abroad, so have only just listened! Time difference means tomorrow will be very late, but can’t miss it and the new podcast that will follow! If I can’t get it I hope fellow GNetters will keep me up to speed! I’ve seen that George isn’t in next week’s cast, but the effects on the whole clan and the village will be enormous.

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Wow! That was a good episode. Emma needs to be thankful it wasn’t a longer sentence and he probably won’t have to serve the whole three years.

If it’s one and two years concurrently doesn’t that mean 2 ( concurrently =“at the same time”)
And with good behaviour surely he’ll be out in 1?
Shame for the actor, he’s going to be looking for 12 months’ work now!

Yes concurrently - at the same time ]

This is another occasion when the scriptwriters got it right. The Judge’s reasons for the sentence had me back listening to this kind of sentencing in real life.
It prompts debate on whether it will push George further into the selfish impulsive thoughtless/deliberately cruel etc etc path he’s been following. Prison is punishment and to protect the public. We should of course be developing alternatives to custody but I’m not convinced the severity of the offences could ever have resulted in anything other than the chokey.

I think, when it comes to young offenders charged with a first offence, holding down a responsible job, etc, a non-custodial sentence could result in a positive change in the course of a young person’s future, and benefit society in the long run. This outcome was probably in line with sentencing guidelines, but this was my gut reaction to the outcome of the case.

There must be cases like this fictitious one in real life.

I agree we need to improve our CJS - returning to investing in Early Years like the Every Child Matters approach would help reduce teenage pregnancy, substance dependence and juvenile offending

I must have missed the judge saying concurrently because I do know what it means.

Have we been told yet whether or not Emma is to be prosecuted? We heard a couple of weeks ago that Will won't be but, listening to tonight's - well written and well acted - epi, I was longing to see the horrible woman banged-up!
I've always loathed her since she was a teenager - so whiny and entitled and with a huge chip on her shoulder about social class. Tonight's hysterical wailings were just too much!
She brought up her oik of a son. Maybe she should have taught him the difference between right and wrong and then she wouldn't be sobbing and screeching when justice was done. Mother love is no excuse for colluding with her ex to help him escape justice and I'd love to have seen all three of them in the dock.

Custodial was inevitable cos of deliberate actions to put the blame on someone else.
But I was surprised that the driving aspect attracted a year .. the fact that Alice trying to open the door was a v important factor that was not brought up. If she had not done that there would have been no accident.

Or, if George hadn’t tried to do Alice a good turn by driving her home. If he’d left her to sleep it off in that lay-by none of it would have happened. But as you say, Luckygirl, it led to him making some criminal decisions, for which he’ll be paying a harsh penalty.
I do think there were mitigating circumstances, but perhaps the judge took those into consideration. I’ll have to listen again.

I am sad for George and Emma. She is one of my favourite characters, flaws and all. They might not write him out, we might have regular 'visits' to him in prison. We met one of Helen's cell mates didnt we?
Oh I have just had a horrible thought, I wonder if they will go down the assault route in prison or darker than that.
And of course if he comes out unscathed so to speak there will be the parallels with Freddie, who had money and family influence to protect him on his re entry to society.

He’ll always have family, unless prison turns him into another Clive.

I heard on the Today programme this morning that the new Archers podcast starts this evening & “Judge Rinder” will be giving his thoughts on the judgement.

Prison corrupts - I know this.
It will be interesting to hear the podcast.

The way the Judge delivered his reasons for sentencing was an accurate representation of Real Life imo. He summarised the mitigating circs which he concluded were outweighed by George’s deliberate continued attempts to blame Alice then Henry. Perverting the course of justice almost always results in custody

Emma & Will appear to have had a lucky escape then.