The day the Queen died.

Strange question

I take MissAdventure’s point, this isn’t what the thread is about, and I’m sorry for rising to the bait.
This is my last post, so I’ll make it clear what I meant, which was that men joining the royal family are expected to conform, not just women. I wasn’t talking specifically about having their own careers as you interpreted it, I was talking about conforming to loyalty and behavioural standards, aka not selling stories and gossiping to other people to undermine other members of the family. If you want names, I’m thinking of Mark Phillips, Tim Lawrence, Beatrice, Eugenie and Zara’s husbands. Royal women do work too of course, either as working members of the royal family, or in their own careers.

I watched the programme ( remember the programme, the one this thread was about?), and found it very interesting, though there was no mention of the lying-in-state in Edinburgh.

And, Frogoet, what is CHC?

‘Unlike my mum and probably yours she worked hard and still ended up only getting CHC when past knowing.’

Anniebach

Strange question

Not strange at all. Harry’s wife is Meghan, not Megan.

Harry or Haz or H ?

Casdon

I take MissAdventure’s point, this isn’t what the thread is about, and I’m sorry for rising to the bait.
This is my last post, so I’ll make it clear what I meant, which was that men joining the royal family are expected to conform, not just women. I wasn’t talking specifically about having their own careers as you interpreted it, I was talking about conforming to loyalty and behavioural standards, aka not selling stories and gossiping to other people to undermine other members of the family. If you want names, I’m thinking of Mark Phillips, Tim Lawrence, Beatrice, Eugenie and Zara’s husbands. Royal women do work too of course, either as working members of the royal family, or in their own careers.

Well I wasn't talking about gossip, stories told to the press, or any information about anyone in the RF, which features in any media outlet
Mark Philips had (and still has) a career in the horsey world
Tim Lawrence had a naval career then went on to have a career in property management.
Mike Tindall ghas a successful media career, appearing on reality shows etc.

Not one woman who married into the RF has kept a career of her own going.

I'm not quite sure what career you expect these ladies to have Glorianny?
There are those of us who could make a good career out of selecting our wardrobe, making people smile, a bit of acting in public, studying the constitution, reading up on visits etc. as well as looking after the kids.
My brain is never bored or boring, even though my proper job has now trailed off. I felt just as fulfilled and successful either way, whatever my rôle in relation to DH's.

Joseann

I'm not quite sure what career you expect these ladies to have Glorianny?
There are those of us who could make a good career out of selecting our wardrobe, making people smile, a bit of acting in public, studying the constitution, reading up on visits etc. as well as looking after the kids.
My brain is never bored or boring, even though my proper job has now trailed off. I felt just as fulfilled and successful either way, whatever my rôle in relation to DH's.

Most jobs involve some acting, don't they, especially if they are public facing..

Teaching, hairdressing, shop workers, so many require putting on a face for the public, diplomacy, even if you don't feel like it!

Sarah has certainly had success from her 10 year marriage, as
The Duchess of York.

Joseann

I'm not quite sure what career you expect these ladies to have Glorianny?
There are those of us who could make a good career out of selecting our wardrobe, making people smile, a bit of acting in public, studying the constitution, reading up on visits etc. as well as looking after the kids.
My brain is never bored or boring, even though my proper job has now trailed off. I felt just as fulfilled and successful either way, whatever my rôle in relation to DH's.

I've no idea, but I suppose you wouldn't expect every woman to be happy doing what you chose to do? Some women might choose not to have a career, not all women do.

Anniebach

Sarah has certainly had success from her 10 year marriage, as
The Duchess of York.

She almost went bankrupt
www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/aug/08/sarah-ferguson-bankrupt-debts-millions#:~:text=In%20an%20interview%20later%20with,year%20from%20her%20divorce%20settlement.!!

Nearly,

Rather amusing, Sarah was almost bankrupt? the sucker of her toes was her financial advisor!

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Joseann

I'm not quite sure what career you expect these ladies to have Glorianny?
There are those of us who could make a good career out of selecting our wardrobe, making people smile, a bit of acting in public, studying the constitution, reading up on visits etc. as well as looking after the kids.
My brain is never bored or boring, even though my proper job has now trailed off. I felt just as fulfilled and successful either way, whatever my rôle in relation to DH's.

I've no idea, but I suppose you wouldn't expect every woman to be happy doing what you chose to do? Some women might choose not to have a career, not all women do.

Any adult with half a brain would know what marrying into the Royal family would entail, and the possible restrictions on their life. Chelsy Davy, reportedly Harry's first real love, knew she wasn't able to commit to the exposure and lifestyle expected of her and their relationship broke down. Harry apparently wasn't prepared to abandon the privileged lifestyle to be with her. Some women are prepared and able to make those adjustments for the man they love. Happens with the wives of men in many occupations, military wives, clergy wives just two examples.

Rosie51

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Joseann

I'm not quite sure what career you expect these ladies to have Glorianny?
There are those of us who could make a good career out of selecting our wardrobe, making people smile, a bit of acting in public, studying the constitution, reading up on visits etc. as well as looking after the kids.
My brain is never bored or boring, even though my proper job has now trailed off. I felt just as fulfilled and successful either way, whatever my rôle in relation to DH's.

I've no idea, but I suppose you wouldn't expect every woman to be happy doing what you chose to do? Some women might choose not to have a career, not all women do.

Any adult with half a brain would know what marrying into the Royal family would entail, and the possible restrictions on their life. Chelsy Davy, reportedly Harry's first real love, knew she wasn't able to commit to the exposure and lifestyle expected of her and their relationship broke down. Harry apparently wasn't prepared to abandon the privileged lifestyle to be with her. Some women are prepared and able to make those adjustments for the man they love. Happens with the wives of men in many occupations, military wives, clergy wives just two examples.

That's a bit out of date most vicar's wives have jobs now, as do a lot of military wives. In fact they get help finding jobs discovermybenefits.mod.gov.uk/army/families/spouse-partner-employment/

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Rosie51

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Joseann

I'm not quite sure what career you expect these ladies to have Glorianny?
There are those of us who could make a good career out of selecting our wardrobe, making people smile, a bit of acting in public, studying the constitution, reading up on visits etc. as well as looking after the kids.
My brain is never bored or boring, even though my proper job has now trailed off. I felt just as fulfilled and successful either way, whatever my rôle in relation to DH's.

I've no idea, but I suppose you wouldn't expect every woman to be happy doing what you chose to do? Some women might choose not to have a career, not all women do.

Any adult with half a brain would know what marrying into the Royal family would entail, and the possible restrictions on their life. Chelsy Davy, reportedly Harry's first real love, knew she wasn't able to commit to the exposure and lifestyle expected of her and their relationship broke down. Harry apparently wasn't prepared to abandon the privileged lifestyle to be with her. Some women are prepared and able to make those adjustments for the man they love. Happens with the wives of men in many occupations, military wives, clergy wives just two examples.

That's a bit out of date most vicar's wives have jobs now, as do a lot of military wives. In fact they get help finding jobs discovermybenefits.mod.gov.uk/army/families/spouse-partner-employment/

Yes vicar's wives have jobs, jobs that they have to leave when the religious leader gets appointed to a new area. Within the Methodist Church that's every 7 years. A woman, or man who marries a Methodist minister has to accept they'll be going to pastures new every 7 years, with very few exceptions.

Forces personnel often have postings to different areas and countries, if the families go with them the spouse has to change jobs. They know this from the outset. They make an informed adult choice. As does any person marrying another, they make informed adult choices.

Any woman or man marrying into the Royal family who was unaware of the restrictions must be either living in a bubble or somewhat self-deluded.

Diana knew, grew up in Sandringham, brother Godson of the
Queen, father equerry to the Queen, brother in law private Secretary to the Queen.

What Diana didn’t know was that she wouldn’t be loved by Charles.

What Charles didn’t know was Diana wanted to marry him to please her father ,she was so bored with him on honeymoon , she said so

Who did she say it too, though?

Oh... to, not too!

She told Andrew Morton she was bored on Britannia , papers have been released re The Queen thought Diana was more suited to Andrew, explains why Diana said ‘Andrew was always playing computer games, I knew he wasn’t for me’

Rosie51

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Rosie51

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Joseann

I'm not quite sure what career you expect these ladies to have Glorianny?
There are those of us who could make a good career out of selecting our wardrobe, making people smile, a bit of acting in public, studying the constitution, reading up on visits etc. as well as looking after the kids.
My brain is never bored or boring, even though my proper job has now trailed off. I felt just as fulfilled and successful either way, whatever my rôle in relation to DH's.

I've no idea, but I suppose you wouldn't expect every woman to be happy doing what you chose to do? Some women might choose not to have a career, not all women do.

Any adult with half a brain would know what marrying into the Royal family would entail, and the possible restrictions on their life. Chelsy Davy, reportedly Harry's first real love, knew she wasn't able to commit to the exposure and lifestyle expected of her and their relationship broke down. Harry apparently wasn't prepared to abandon the privileged lifestyle to be with her. Some women are prepared and able to make those adjustments for the man they love. Happens with the wives of men in many occupations, military wives, clergy wives just two examples.

That's a bit out of date most vicar's wives have jobs now, as do a lot of military wives. In fact they get help finding jobs discovermybenefits.mod.gov.uk/army/families/spouse-partner-employment/

Yes vicar's wives have jobs, jobs that they have to leave when the religious leader gets appointed to a new area. Within the Methodist Church that's every 7 years. A woman, or man who marries a Methodist minister has to accept they'll be going to pastures new every 7 years, with very few exceptions.

Forces personnel often have postings to different areas and countries, if the families go with them the spouse has to change jobs. They know this from the outset. They make an informed adult choice. As does any person marrying another, they make informed adult choices.

Any woman or man marrying into the Royal family who was unaware of the restrictions must be either living in a bubble or somewhat self-deluded.

Lots of people husbands and wives change location, sometimes to advance their career, sometimes directed by their employer. Usually the spouse goes with them.

Lots of people husbands and wives change location, sometimes to advance their career, sometimes directed by their employer. Usually the spouse goes with them.
I don't get your point? Has anybody disputed this as fact? How is one partner limiting their career opportunities to facilitate the other partner any different to Royal marriages where that restriction is well known before the marriage started and can never be a surprise?

Rosie51

^Lots of people husbands and wives change location, sometimes to advance their career, sometimes directed by their employer. Usually the spouse goes with them.^
I don't get your point? Has anybody disputed this as fact? How is one partner limiting their career opportunities to facilitate the other partner any different to Royal marriages where that restriction is well known before the marriage started and can never be a surprise?

Because in spite of the move they will usually take up their career again. Not so Royal wives.