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A Very British Sex Scandal

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Sarnia Thu 02-May-24 14:22:12

Channel 5 have been showing a series about sex scandals which shocked the nation. The episode on Cecil Parkinson has reminded me what a nasty, conniving creep he really was. We have plenty of MP's in disgrace these days but Cecil was in a class of his own back in the day. Thatcher and her all-male Cabinet eventually brought him back to the fold and gave him a sense that he had been the victim. If you decide to watch it you will have to stomach Edwina Currie voicing her opinion. Glass houses and stones spring to mind...............

Galaxy Thu 02-May-24 14:31:38

The way he treated that child was appalling. To be fair as far as I know edwina Currie did not treat a child in that way.

merlotgran Thu 02-May-24 14:39:39

I’ve just started watching it. Memories are flooding back!

Grandma70s Thu 02-May-24 14:47:00

I remember the Cecil Parkinson business, but didn’t take much notice at the time because I was knee deep in young children. I thought they must be old films of Edwina Currie, but they weren’t, were they? Amazing. She doesn’t seem to have aged at all.

merlotgran Thu 02-May-24 14:55:47

Grandma70s

I remember the Cecil Parkinson business, but didn’t take much notice at the time because I was knee deep in young children. I thought they must be old films of Edwina Currie, but they weren’t, were they? Amazing. She doesn’t seem to have aged at all.

I think my interest was because I was knee deep in young children! 😂

OldFrill Thu 02-May-24 15:38:53

Grandma70s

I remember the Cecil Parkinson business, but didn’t take much notice at the time because I was knee deep in young children. I thought they must be old films of Edwina Currie, but they weren’t, were they? Amazing. She doesn’t seem to have aged at all.

She had a face lift in her 50s.

ronib Thu 02-May-24 15:43:28

Well I am knee deep in grandchildren and I don’t think the family tragedy which hit all members of the Parkinson family is my business to judge. I feel sorry for Mary Parkinson who committed suicide two years after Cecil, her father died however. It must have been a difficult balancing act all in all for those involved .

OldFrill Thu 02-May-24 15:48:30

ronib

Well I am knee deep in grandchildren and I don’t think the family tragedy which hit all members of the Parkinson family is my business to judge. I feel sorry for Mary Parkinson who committed suicide two years after Cecil, her father died however. It must have been a difficult balancing act all in all for those involved .

Did you watch it?

DanniRae Thu 02-May-24 15:57:55

I watched it until little Flora had her operation and got so sad I had to turn it off. I was telling MrR about it and that made cry all over again.
What an awful man he was ...... refusing to ever see the baby and treating Sarah so badly.
I don't know how his poor wife ever forgave him angry

eazybee Thu 02-May-24 16:14:49

There was a thread about a year ago asking if anyone on Gransnet had had an affair with a married man. Some brave souls answered, and the general consensus seemed to be that it was very wrong of a woman to engage in one if there were children involved. (The same comment was directed at men.) But all the condemnation here is directed at Parkinson, who I remember told Sarah's father he wanted to marry her, and her father agreed
I remember the scandal and I was not impressed by the mistress or Parkinson at the time, all my sympathy going to his wife, but I haven't watched the programme yet, so I will reserve judgement.

Galaxy Thu 02-May-24 16:23:16

I am not judging the affair I am judging a man who had no contact with his child. She had learning disabilities and complex health issues, the 'mistress' spent her life caring for her.

Anniebach Thu 02-May-24 16:50:00

Sarah Keays had no problem with hurting the children in the marriage , a 12 year affair, I feel for the children from the marriage and affair

ronib Thu 02-May-24 18:03:09

OldFrilldo I need to watch the programme? I know the story as it’s been told many times! Or has it changed in the retelling?

merlotgran Thu 02-May-24 18:45:03

I remember having very little sympathy for Sarah Keays at the time. All of it was reserved for Cecil Parkinson’s wife, probably influenced by the old saying, ‘It takes two to tango.’

I’m sure I would feel differently today, particularly as the gagging order just wouldn’t work. The woman in the Question Time audience who was shut down for her strong principles showed CP for who he was - an arrogant, self serving misogynist.

OldFrill Thu 02-May-24 19:49:59

ronib

*OldFrill*do I need to watch the programme? I know the story as it’s been told many times! Or has it changed in the retelling?

There may be a different perspective. I don't know the perspective of the story you know.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 02-May-24 19:53:38

My sympathies are entirely with the children involved. The adults get what they deserve. Well, not in Parkinson’s case of course that b……d got away with abhorrent behaviour.

Allsorts Thu 02-May-24 19:59:19

What a slimy toad of a man punishing his child, her differently from his others, it must have been a marriage of convenience, no one would take a man back after 12 years of cheating and neglecting to maintain his child. If he were my husband I wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole.

Grandmafrench Fri 03-May-24 00:05:57

Bumping still

Elrel Fri 03-May-24 00:07:31

I thought I knew all about the story but was wrong. I had no idea of the strength and dignity of Sara Keays after her lover decided to never see their child and then legally prevented Sara from revealing anything about her, and Flora’s, situation.

OldFrill Fri 03-May-24 00:13:14

Elrel

I thought I knew all about the story but was wrong. I had no idea of the strength and dignity of Sara Keays after her lover decided to never see their child and then legally prevented Sara from revealing anything about her, and Flora’s, situation.

In the programme Cecil Parkinson denied he was responsible for the gagging order. It seems that's true. Sara Keays initially thought it would benefit Flora, when she found it proved impossible to change it. Whether CP influenced the courts is purely speculative.

Calendargirl Fri 03-May-24 07:31:20

I finished watching this last night.

I just marvelled how times have changed in so many ways.

How dated it all looked, the cars, fashions, attitudes.

He had been having this affair for 12 years! How did he get away with it, did his wife not suspect?

Galaxy Fri 03-May-24 09:10:37

I imagine a politicians life is excellent cover for an affair. Late night sittings, travel, etc.

Anniebach Fri 03-May-24 09:14:12

Sarah Keays was his private secretary

Calendargirl Fri 03-May-24 13:04:21

I know she was his secretary and MP’s lead ‘away from home’ lives…but even so.

Talk about having his cake and eating it.

He came across as very smarmy.

ronib Fri 03-May-24 13:51:37

Well CP wasn’t the first unfaithful partner and he won’t be the last.
I know of some cases where a man will think it quite normal to have both a wife and a very longstanding mistress. I don’t think it’s remotely acceptable but it happens. I don’t think we have a societal mindset where welfare of children overrides individual passions of the parents ….