David Tennant.

No-one's arguing with that Violetsky. That is letting children be children.

Most of us had enough common sense to realise that when we were bringing up our children. Try telling that to Lego!

Tennant is exploiting his child.

That child is not being exploited, they are living their best life in magnificent butterfly wings... They have my full support to do that

That's how our boys were raised and they didn't need to wear rainbow wings and dresses.

Yes let them be themselves, dont embrace gender stereotypes. No such thing as dressing like a woman, living like a woman, the toys you like have no impact on whether you are a girl or boy. Dont say born in the wrong body, telling children they are somehow wrong is a terrible thing to do.

VioletSky

I think this will help long term with toxic masculinity, and the danger that poses to women...

Teach children they can all cry, they can all play sports, they can all wear whatever they want to wear, they can all play with whatever toys they want to play with...

Let them be themselves

Definitely and most parents do, but that doesn’t mean using them to prove a point, sticking a boy into a frilly dress with wings and parading him in public.

VioletSky

That child is not being exploited, they are living their best life in magnificent butterfly wings... They have my full support to do that

Am sure your support will be appreciated
I fear for the future of many of these kids tbh.

Oreo how can you say a child should have that freedom of choice in one breath but state this choice cannot possibly have been made by the child in the next?

Sometimes children choose to go to pride with magnificent rainbow wings... You don't believe a child because you don't like the parent suddenly?

Galaxy

Yes let them be themselves, dont embrace gender stereotypes. No such thing as dressing like a woman, living like a woman, the toys you like have no impact on whether you are a girl or boy. Dont say born in the wrong body, telling children they are somehow wrong is a terrible thing to do.

Absolutely.

This election is one of the bitterest ones I've witnessed. All parties, and I'm pretty sure it's all of them, are trying to find something radically wrong with other parties. This is then blown up by the press.
They should be promoting their policies, saying how their party will outshine all the others and are the best.
It's just like a witch hunt atm

I think some parents are more concerned that their boy will turn out to be gay so are turning to the trans issue if you really want my honest opinion VioletSky
Depending on the age of the child it’s much more likely that a boy who appears girly , wants nail varnish and a dress and so on will either be too young to to know anything and it’s just dress up to them or with an older boy that he will be gay when he comes to choosing boyfriend/ girlfriend.
I really don’t believe there are all these thousands and thousands of real gender problems with children here.

Highly unlikely. She is in an extremely safe seat in leafy Saffron Walden, north essex.

Oreo

It's sad that people would still be concerned about that, most of us know these things aren't a choice...

Poor children and teens have been trying not to be who they are for so long, families and lives devastated by hiding these things, that's why we need Pride, to show them they can be themselves

As long as they aren’t directed that way by adults, directed and encouraged.
Children often need time to really know themselves and we do them a real disservice if we rush them.

VioletSky

Oreo

It's sad that people would still be concerned about that, most of us know these things aren't a choice...

Poor children and teens have been trying not to be who they are for so long, families and lives devastated by hiding these things, that's why we need Pride, to show them they can be themselves

Totally not true.

I am middle sixties, there were to openly lesbian girls in my year at my all girls grammar school.

When I moved counties and chose to go to the local streamed comprehensive the boy in my tutor group was out and proud.

I have no idea where in the U.K. you live, but here in London and the South East being gay is no big deal!

I would expect anyone attending Pride to absolutely understand that

Granygravy people are still coming out of the closet and still people being bullied for being LGBTQ and still people hiding it... There are also still parents who do not accept it

There are still many places and ways people are in danger for being gay...

This is my lived experience

VioletSky

Granygravy people are still coming out of the closet and still people being bullied for being LGBTQ and still people hiding it... There are also still parents who do not accept it

There are still many places and ways people are in danger for being gay...

This is my lived experience

Funny enough it’s mine and DH’s lived experience.

www.standard.co.uk/news/london/rise-lgbtq-hate-crime-london-homophobic-attacks-clapham-brixton-b1112859.html

SiobhanSharpe

Highly unlikely. She is in an extremely safe seat in leafy Saffron Walden, north essex.

Unfortunately, that's almost certainly true. I think everybody else gave up years ago, although we have an independent local council and Labour won a town council seat a few weeks ago. Local LibDem activists have been asked to concentrate on South Cambridgeshire.

How can you not believe that gay people are still experiencing homophobia?

Just Google it!

Yes in London too

I would guarantee that her majority will be reduced, but it's a huge majority to overturn.

VioletSky

How can you not believe that gay people are still experiencing homophobia?

Just Google it!

Yes in London too

I agree with you. I've seen it first hand in secondary schools.

Interesting discussion. I believe most gay people are getting on with living their lives in the same way as everyone else, with the same worries and concerns and the same joys and pleasures.
My second son is gay. He is married to our son in law and they have a little boy who they adopted when he was two years old. He is a senior barrister and works hard at the big and complicated cases he takes on. They live near London for his work, but come to their weekend house most weekends so that their child can see us and have a regular relationship with his grandparents.
My son has never attended a Pride event. He lives a normal life just like other people. All four of his grandparents, all in their eighties, attended his wedding, along with multiple other relatives. And the relatives of his partner.
I appreciate that some gay people have troubled lives, but really I think we’re getting beyond that for most gay people and their families.
Just let them lead their normal lives. Accept them and remember they are people.
I don’t think of my son as my gay son, I think of him simply as my son, my darling boy.

maddyone!👍🏻😘

That's lovely maddyone .

People in all walks of life have as you say, worries and concerns as well as joys and pleasures.

I know that threads meander but this isn't a discussion about homophobia VS or transphobia, it's about the affect that a small minority of a minority group are having on the lives of women, as well as concerns about children being told they are in the wrong body.