The Traitors

I think it was predictable after the "Seer" thing.
Sadly.

Well that’s that then
I enjoyed it but not as much as first and second one
I liked Alexander best out of the last group standing
Wasn’t so keen on the winners ummmmm

I agree BlueBelle and think the show was skewed against him from the beginning. However, he didn't help himself when under fire by trying to explain more complicated ideas!

It was a shame that Alexander and Frankie were banished at the last minute. I don't mind Jake but not happy about that other winner!

Like a lot of this type of show, the first series and possibly the second one, still have novelty value. After that they do become a bit predictable.
I also liked Alexander and Frankie.

I did enjoy this series though and will aim to watch again next year.

It’s both fun and fascinating and I look forward to the next series, all human life is there, as they say.

I think I read somewhere there is to be a celebrity version, be great if it were interesting people, would love to see Victoria Coren Michell, Stephen Mangen etc, but prob be younger not so bright so called celebs, who would you like to see in the castle?

While I enjoyed the final episode, I did think 'The Seer' twist actually spoiled the ending. Once The Seer had revealed the status of the contestant selected, it became pretty obvious how it would play out with the remainers. Still, they have to come up with ideas to keep it fresh. Perhaps selecting a Traitor, who does not join the others, but remains anonymous would be fun especially if the others try to murder that contestant and they keep turning up at breakfast. Perhaps they could have a secret final stamp of approval, or not, over those chosen by the main group of traitors to be murdered. I'd like to see a bit of uncertainty in both groups.
As to a celebrity series, probably best to have relevant unknown celebs, as well known ones will already have their cards marked by the public as to degree of honesty. My first thoughts were Boris and Bercow.

I would love to see the two B’s on traitors!!

Bercow was in one of the US series. All on iplayer.

shysal

Bercow was in one of the US series. All on iplayer.

Ah, thanks, didn’t know that, haven’t watched any foreign ones

Oreo

It’s both fun and fascinating and I look forward to the next series, all human life is there, as they say.

That's what I like about it, too. There are those who look down on 'reality TV', but I find human behaviour fascinating and love programmes like this. We don't just watch the game unfold but hear from the contestants about their motives and thoughts. Reality TV can require a higher level of engagement than a documentary that tells the viewer what to think, or even a drama where the actors and directors show us what they want us to know as the story unfolds, but that's what I like about it. I don't bother with the ones that concentrate on the young and beautiful - I prefer the 'all human life' ones, and get quite invested in them.

There was a celebrity one in the US (I think). I didn't recognise the celebrities, but I think they were of the Love Island-type variety. Definitely not the Johnson/Bercow level of fame . I don't think the fact that the public will trust them or not matters, as there is no public vote. A celeb one will probably mean that they can have more series', as it will count as a series of its own (a bit like Big Brother running two separate versions). I shall look forward to it.

shysal

Bercow was in one of the US series. All on iplayer.

Oh, so he was! I take back my previous comment . Having said that, I don't suppose he was well-known in the US.

I will also look forward to the celeb version - I would quite like to see either David or Victoria Mitchell, Stephen Graham, Marti Pellow ('scuse me going for a bit of eye candy!), perhaps Lily Allen (think she might provide some controversy) hmmm will keep thinking...

I don't like the celebrity versions.
I'm also not keen on the Australian one.

I thought this UK series was weaker than the others too. Why reuse dolls, cages etc!

Not being told about traitor/faithful at the end didn't help either... and once the two had been in the "seer" meeting they obviously had to go and Alexander was inevitable, sadly.

I liked Alexander. I liked Jake, too, but was less keen on Leanne.

I never warmed to Frankie, and whilst Charlotte played a very good game, tI'm not keen on people who can be ruthless towards friends in that way. I know it's a game, but all the same, it puts me off them.

We can't know who is a Traitor at the end, as that's the point - if there is one they take all the money. When both Charlotte and Franke had gone, the others really didn't know if there was a Traitor left, so kept going with the banishments. Under the old rules, Charlotte, Frankie and Alexander would have had to declare their status when they left (if I remember rightly).

Anyone applying for the next series?
studiolambert.com/project/take-part-the-traitors-uk/

After the seer episode, I found myself listening to Charlotte's lies with Frankie's ears, if that makes sense. I thought that Charlotte was playing a clever game but started to really dislike her and I was glad when she was banished. It's quite a brutal game really but I like it.

Doodledog I just meant I preferred the "contestants" to declare whether they were faithful or not as they left - which is pf course what earlier series did.

I agree Notspaghetti I prefer when they know all who are traitors and I also think there should be somewhere that says if they ve been a traitor from the start or only one week as in poor Freddy’s case
They are now talking about the possibility of a celebrity version I don’t think I d like that at all

NotSpaghetti

Doodledog I just meant I preferred the "contestants" to declare whether they were faithful or not as they left - which is pf course what earlier series did.

Yes, I got that, but the seer thing spoilt that a bit. I wonder if they know they are going to do things like that at the start, or if they add them in as they go when they think it needs spicing up a bit?

Anyone applying for the next series?
Not likely . I would be hopeless. I am far too trusting and easy to read. I would be an obvious traitor and a gullible faithful. I like the castle though, and those breakfasts look wonderful. The other meals less so - they seem to shovel food from bowls a lot of the time.

Fingers crossed they don't do the Seer thing again as it's probably OK if both are faithful or both traitors but it does make them into obvious targets when there's one of each.
I wish Claudia hadn't hinted so strongly that the caged people might be traitors as the assumption was that one of them was a traitor.

Yes, I don't know if the seer idea was a good one or not.

I'd rather they didn't have people come back in after the others have bonded (ie the train people). I suppose the payoff is that they can't get voted out in the early days, but set against the alliances made by the others and the inevitable difficulty in being trusted that's not much comfort. It just complicates things unnecessarily.

I'd prefer to see the traitors be able to bring back a banished person, who needn't come back in the same role as they left. They would know who had voted for them, which would add an interesting dimension.

Traitors USA on. Binge watching first 5 episodes. So OTT compared with our UK version. I have to confess to not knowing a single one of the celebs. It's on BBC3 player if you are interested.