GB NEWS fund raiser for survivors of Grooming Gangs

Oh and somebody who actually knows what he's talking about says many survivors are triggered and retraumatised by the current situation.

Nasir Afsal. Radio 4.

yes they do Jeanathome, a £5 here and there adds up as does a kind heart and some empathy, sadly lacking in some.

Fortunately the majority are kind and do quietly support

Yes and Afsal makes it clear the vast majority of rape and sexual abuse is carried out by white men and concentrating attention on one group is protecting the group causing most of the problem. GBNews would do well to reflect on that instead of whipping up hate.

I was told it was a great channel and I should give it a try. Well 3 tries and all I heard was focus on Pakistani men. Great cover for all the white perpetrators.

Being kind doesn't mean whipping up hate. Let's have a campaign about the white rapists.

Mt61

I for one trust these two people 100%, they have worked tirelessly for the victims of this horrendous crime. People like Maggie Oliver should be up an award, she is a true heroine.
Patrick has also raised a lot of money to help people that have had the WFA removed.

Maggie Oliver is absolutely a hero.

Whilst I do commend fundraising via GB News there have been plenty of other TV programs raising money over the years and it’s not just GB News fans who give to worthy charities or do volunteering.

theworriedwell

Being kind doesn't mean whipping up hate. Let's have a campaign about the white rapists.

Let’s just refer to these heinous grooming gangs as what they are, rapists! The colour creed or race is irrelevant.

Oreo

It’s a nice idea but what those women really need is the knowledge that what happened to them isn’t going to continue to happen unhampered to other girls and that all the perpetrators are brought to justice.

Agreed.

What is the money supposed to pay for? How much will each victim be given?

Anything that helps (although this is coming in rather after the fact - the scandal hit many years ago, and there was no big outcry then🤔) is obviously a good thing, but how will giving people a few quid each help? I'm not wanting to deny them anything, but it's something of an empty gesture unless there is a plan for how the money will be spent so it actually helps.

Wyllow3

The Maggie Oliver foundation is for all women who have survived sexual abuse and exploitation, which includes both gangs and family and individual abuse and exploitation.

It's not specifically for one group as seems to have been suggested in the O/P

Front page of the Maggie Oliver Foundation
www.themaggieoliverfoundation.com

Quote from one of their caseworkers illustrating the breadth of their work

From Maya, one of the case workers on the site:

"My passion is driven through my lived experience as a CSA Survivor.

I gained national media attention and recognition when I waived my lifelong anonymity in September 2018, exposing the serial sexual abuse at the hands of my father, during his release from prison after serving just 6 years of his 10-year sentence".

So a worthwhile move, alongside as Oreo suggested, a better success rate for girls and women currently at risk, implementing the 2022 report.

Thanks for sharing

If the colour of the gangs is irrelevant why is it constantly referred to?

If it's the Maggie Oliver foundation the money is going to, its not cash payments its a counselling service which of course is valuable. there are of course other organisations

Important to be aware of the range of organisations who can help

Other organisations currently helping are
One in Four
The survivors trust
Safeline
SARSAS
Local Rape and Sexual Abuse Centre (over the country
(Plus many local organisations)

Yes and every £5 helps with all these groups. but I hope that GB news isn't giving the impression that you can only get help if you are a survivor of a specific group of grooming gangs.

£206, 000 now

The quiet ones, out in force.

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Hopefully.

I have never watched GB News so have no idea who Patrick Christy is but if he is raising money to help abused women in any way surely that’s a good thing.

Jeanathome

No, the right wing ones sitting at home feeling smug. Warming themselves on the embers of racism and hatred.

Enjoy. Perhaps Elon will pop a few quid in?

Are you against all charity fund raising?

Or are you just against this fund raising for the Maggie Oliver Foundation due to it being initiated by GB News?

It is a good thing as I've said above the Maggie Oliver Trust helps ALL sexual abuse victims.

Every little helps of course but the main issues organisations like that face is long term reliable funding. They have to pay ongoing costs especially employing professionals year on year.

Probably the best option for the "quiet donors" is direct debit payments which allow the organisation to continue.

Now, since I haven't seen the appeal, I am taking it on trust that if its the Maggie Oliver Trust then it is clear it is not money for a specific group of victims nor is is campaigning money "for another inquiry

ie, imposing a political agenda on the issue.

Following up on last post

Can GB watchers reassure us it's clear that money raised will go to all abuse victims whoever had abused them and not ring fence it?

theworriedwell

If the colour of the gangs is irrelevant why is it constantly referred to?

Yes, that is my concern. The vast majority of grooming gangs are white, British.

From the Independent on 10th of January. Official figure

“Offences where grooming gangs are involved are predominantly white.

“There is not a significant issue here with any particular ethnicity or setting.”

The NPCC said the data, collated in this way for the first time, will now be used to inform the training of new officers and help chiefs at a “force-based level”.

“The data we collect now is a starting point,” Mr Fewkes said.

In recent days, the online and political debate has seen calls for an inquiry into child rape by Pakistani men, with Reform UK leader Nigel Farage demanding a probe into “to what extent were gangs of Pakistani men raping young white girls.”

In 2023, the largest proportion of child sexual abuse suspects were white, accounting for 1,884 (83%), followed by 62 Pakistani suspects (2.7%), the NPCC’s data shows.

theworriedwell

If the colour of the gangs is irrelevant why is it constantly referred to?

The reason it went on for so long, and is still going on is because people in the know ….. police, social workers, teachers, staff in childrens homes etc were not prepared to speak out because they feared being labelled racist.

Now it’s all out in the open, mainly thanks to Maggie Oliver who resigned from the Police because she was disgusted at what was going on and these vile men were getting away with it and their families were shielding them.

Jeanathome

No, the right wing ones sitting at home feeling smug. Warming themselves on the embers of racism and hatred.

Enjoy. Perhaps Elon will pop a few quid in?

Very nasty.

The money will go to support these survivors in whatever way they need it. Maybe counselling, some still have drug habits, some have scars, some have kids to support, some will have moved to get away from the area where they were abused and may need practical help, others will be trying to build new lives and re-educate themselves.

I think we can rest assured that Maggie Oliver and her team have more than enough experience to know what these girls need and will make sure they get it.

Jeanathome

Many kind people quietly support those in need ,day in day out.

They do but publicity or someone high profile publicising this means a lot more people will donate to charities.

Jeanathome

No, the right wing ones sitting at home feeling smug. Warming themselves on the embers of racism and hatred.

Enjoy. Perhaps Elon will pop a few quid in?

Do you even know who Maggie Oliver is jeanathome?
What are you doing to help?

Our founder and Chair, Maggie Oliver is best known as the Detective-turned- whistleblower who resigned from Greater Manchester Police in late 2012 in order to expose the now infamous Rochdale Grooming Scandal. Her ability to connect with people and encourage them to speak out against injustice paired with her grit and determination to expose the truth eventually led to her becoming a Programme Consultant on the multi award-winning dramatisation of the case entitled Three Girls (BBC One) which brought some of the issues to public attention for the first time. Maggie was also a key contributor to The Betrayed Girls documentary (BBC One).

Our Values
Maggie’s relationship with the victims of child exploitation continues to this day, still fighting for justice for survivors of sexual abuse. In 2019, she established The Maggie Oliver Foundation (TMOF) with the focus on helping survivors to transform their Pain into Power.

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Jeanathome

No, the right wing ones sitting at home feeling smug. Warming themselves on the embers of racism and hatred.

Enjoy. Perhaps Elon will pop a few quid in?

Are you against all charity fund raising?

Or are you just against this fund raising for the Maggie Oliver Foundation due to it being initiated by GB News?

Yes, that post is quite, quite shocking and sickening.