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Mansfield Park BBC very old adaptation…

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MayBee70 Fri 13-Jun-25 15:53:00

I started watching this last night. Not knowing anything about the story I watched all four episodes. It was only when I checked it out on Wikipedia that I realised I hadn’t seen the first two episodes which formed the basis of the story so I’m going to watch them tonight. No wonder I couldn’t work out what was happening, but that’s usual for me. Always have to read a synopsis of most things I watch to understand it. I really enjoyed the old Alan Bates BBC series of The Mayor of Casterbridge. There’s something very charming about these old BBC adaptations.

Silverbrooks Fri 13-Jun-25 16:11:43

The Mansfield Park adapatation starring Sylvestra Le Touzel as Fanny Price is from 1983!

Sometimes that feels like yesterday and then I realise it was over 40 years ago.

Nevertheless it's good to see all those actors in their youth or prime: Anna Massey, Angela Pleasance, Bernard Hepton, Nicholas Farrell, Samantha Bond etc.

The Mayor of Casterbridge is even older, from 1978, dramatised by Dennis Potter.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 13-Jun-25 17:01:24

Just finished episode 1. So enjoyable.

I remember the Mayor of Casterbridge. I shall watch that next - if possible.

M0nica Fri 13-Jun-25 18:14:52

I much prefer the older series of almost any classical book, to anything done recently.

For example I much prefer the Pride and Prejudice dramatised by Fay Weldon and starring (I think) David Rintoul as Mr Darcy to the dreadful sexed up and marmelised version starring Colin Firth.

A book is a product of its period and that should be reflected in its dramatisation. It should not be sexed up ans generally restructured to reflect current changed attitudes, or to make it easy for young people to understand.

Witzend Fri 13-Jun-25 18:23:25

Saw this when it first aired ages ago. I didn’t think the main character was well cast at all, and TBH although I’m a great fan of the rest of JA’s novels, Mansfield Park is the last I’d ever choose to re read.

Caleo Fri 13-Jun-25 19:05:14

It's best to judge an adaptation on its own merits. Nobody is going to be Jane Austen so every production is of time.

Caleo Fri 13-Jun-25 19:05:39

of its time

MayBee70 Sat 14-Jun-25 13:56:23

Witzend

Saw this when it first aired ages ago. I didn’t think the main character was well cast at all, and TBH although I’m a great fan of the rest of JA’s novels, Mansfield Park is the last I’d ever choose to re read.

I enjoyed it because, as with the wonderful adaptation of Bleak House a few years ago, it was a story that I knew nothing about. I have to say that I found Fanny and Edmund totally dreary. Then again, reviews that I’ve read since, point out that the book isn’t actually about two central characters but about all of the inhabitants of Mansfield Park.

JamesandJon33 Sat 14-Jun-25 18:14:46

I watched it all as I love Jane Austen. Thankfully it stayed close to the book, but the acting was … actorly . Anna Massey was dreadful, terrible overacting.

MayBee70 Sat 14-Jun-25 19:35:50

Anna Massey is always Anna Massey isn’t she! In The Mayor of Casterbridge Alan Bates et al soon fell into their parts but Anna Massey was Anna Massey! I was amused by one scene in which Pug started struggling to get out of Mrs Bertram’s (sp) arms and for the rest of the scene you only saw peoples heads because Pug was probably running around causing havoc out of camera shot!p

LaCrepescule Sun 15-Jun-25 05:41:45

Thank you for this. I love the old BBC adaptations of the classics and am always looking for decent things to watch.

M0nica Mon 16-Jun-25 17:30:31

Caleo

It's best to judge an adaptation on its own merits. Nobody is going to be Jane Austen so every production is of time.

But there is a difference between a modern dramatisation and the wholesale rejigging of a book to make it look as if the society then was governed by the same rules that govern us now.

vintage1950 Tue 17-Jun-25 17:48:24

I rather enjoyed it although I didn't care for Mary Crawford's obvious wig! The adaptation kept very closely to the book. Excellent cast and I liked Sylvestra Le Touzel as Fanny - she gave the part spirit and character.

Boz Tue 17-Jun-25 18:01:39

I watched the BBC doc, on Jane Austen and apparently Mansfield Park did not sell well at the time to JA's chagrin, The problem is the downbeat Fanny and I think the reading public would have liked another Lizzie Bennett. When this is taught now, the emphasis is on the family money from slavery.

JamesandJon33 Tue 17-Jun-25 18:07:24

Northanger Abbey and Persuasion next week,.

LaCrepescule Thu 19-Jun-25 20:48:04

I’ve just watched the BBC 2008 adaptation of Emma. Really wonderful with a fine cast. It made such a welcome change from the usual fare on the streaming platforms.

JamesandJon33 Thu 19-Jun-25 21:11:33

Yes I have that circled to watch over the weekend . Thanks for the nudge 😘

MayBee70 Thu 19-Jun-25 22:34:32

I was going to start on Emma but The Piano is on BBC4 and I haven’t watched it for years. I must admit to liking the latest film adaptation of Emma ( which I didn’t want to watch when it first came out) because I adore Johnny Flynn, both as an actor and a musician ( and as a jolly nice person, too…).

MayBee70 Fri 20-Jun-25 15:31:59

I’d forgotten how weird The Piano was shock! I always think back to listening to my daughter playing the theme tune on the piano. Switched to Emma which was delightful.

ExaltedWombat Sat 21-Jun-25 13:50:40

We maybe now read Austen's works as gentle comedy of manners. But she wrote of events that were scandalous at the time.

nadateturbe Sat 21-Jun-25 14:18:24

I watched. I love the BBC adaptations, although doesn't compare with the book.

Chaitriona Sat 21-Jun-25 14:40:10

Mansfield Park is one of my favourite books and I loved watching this adaptation. Very true to Austen's novel. Sir Thomas is wonderfully acted with great gravitas. He is perhaps portrayed as being more kindly than he is in the novel. Sylvestra le Touzel has beautiful limpid eyes and a pronounced jawline which prevents her from being conventionally pretty but the two perhaps symbolise Fanny's combination of gentle sweetness and moral strength. I completely believed in her Fanny. A compelling performance. Also Mary Crawford was charming and full of life. I thought Henry's reading to Lady B from Shakespeare about the fallen angel Lucifer was beautifully done. He and Mary are indeed tempters and devil figures but there is something sad too in their attraction to what is virtuous and their failure to wed themselves to it.

LovesBach Sat 21-Jun-25 14:44:11

Did anyone watch 'Clayhanger' back in the late seventies? Twenty six episodes, lifted word for word from Arnold Bennet's books, and enthralling. About ten years go I bought the CD, and was amazed at the glacial slowness of the production - audiences today might find it boring.

Irismarle Sat 21-Jun-25 14:51:30

M0nica

I much prefer the older series of almost any classical book, to anything done recently.

For example I much prefer the Pride and Prejudice dramatised by Fay Weldon and starring (I think) David Rintoul as Mr Darcy to the dreadful sexed up and marmelised version starring Colin Firth.

A book is a product of its period and that should be reflected in its dramatisation. It should not be sexed up ans generally restructured to reflect current changed attitudes, or to make it easy for young people to understand.

I totally agree about the David Rintoul version of Pride and Prejuduce which I find most people have never heard of. Elizabeth Garvie as Elizabeth Bennet was perfect casting. I own an old VHS recording but my player doesn’t work any more.
However I did enjoy the fairly recent film of Emma with Johnny Flynn as Knightly and Anna Taylor Joy as Emma.

MayBee70 Sat 21-Jun-25 15:04:59

I do. Can’t remember if I bought the books after seeing the series or if it was the other way round. I’m trying to remember the name of the actress who starred in it. The series that had the biggest effect ( affect?) on me back then was Nana. I bought and read all of Zolas books after seeing it. I think the BBC must have been responsible for getting people like me interested in the classics.