Jay Blades

Quote Bridie22 Wed 06-Aug-25 08:47:30
Then Annie, we will have to surfice with the courts judgement won't we ?

As Timothy Evans and his family did

Yes.

I love The Repair Shop, but must say I never took to Jay B the way I have with virtually all the other craftspeople.

Victims have anonymity, and this should be applied to the accused too. As posters have said, lives are ruined. Mud sticks, however shiny a surface it is thrown at. A girl accused a fellow student of raping her some years ago, seemingly because he wasn't interested in her. He commited suicide. A work colleague was suspended because of allegations that were proven to be false - that didn't stop his name being bandied about and his children reduced to tears at school. He never returned to his job.

The other people on the show are all qualified, skilled and experienced heritage crafts people who run their own restoration businesses. I think the brother and the sister run a business together. Jay Blades is the co chair of the Heritage Crafts Association.

Eddiecat - Poor John Leslie had his life and career ruined by the odious Matthew Wright naming him wrongly as Ulrika Johnson's attacker. Despite her saying it wasn't John Leslie his reputation has never recovered. I cannot understand why Matthew Wright was ever allowed to broadcast again.

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Bukkie

Eddiecat - Poor John Leslie had his life and career ruined by the odious Matthew Wright naming him wrongly as Ulrika Johnson's attacker. Despite her saying it wasn't John Leslie his reputation has never recovered. I cannot understand why Matthew Wright was ever allowed to broadcast again.

I didn’t know that. It just goes to show how a wrong accusation sticks. There was a young lad in my village who was wrongly accused of some kind of sexual harrasment and he, too couldn’t move on from it.

Is nobody on the victims side here, those who have actually been raped!

Bridie22

Is nobody on the victims side here, those who have actually been raped!

You’re not listening to what people are saying Bridie22. We are all on the side of anybody who has been raped, we all want to see rightful convictions. That does not mean we want to see innocent people having their lives ruined if they are wrongfully accused of rape.

We don't know if anyone has been raped Bridie and wont until the case goes to trial; that's the point.

I understand that miscarriages of justice do happen, its, the thread seemed to veer immediately to the defence of the poor man, not the poor woman bringing the charges, it got my feminist hackles up 🥴

My defence of the poor man has nothing to do with what he's been charged with but the fact that the charges have been made public knowledge.

Understood Smileless 👍

Smileless2012

My defence of the poor man has nothing to do with what he's been charged with but the fact that the charges have been made public knowledge.

Agreed 👍🏻

I often wondered about that l leg painted a different colour.!
A real0ity as there are so many talented people in this England of ours. I hope he is not found guilty because I am sure he is a nice man. He should find a proper job to suit his talents.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Allira

Smileless2012

I'm not comfortable with the name of the accused being released once charges have been made just because they're celebrities.

It happens, the name of the person charged can be released but the alleged victim is given anonymity.

If that person is proven innocent, there will always be a shadow hanging over them, particularly someone famous.

Innocent until proven guilty.
I give you Kevin Spacey cleared on 9 out of 9 sexual assault etc charges in the UK.Several men over a period of about 10 years.
It was suggested that his accusers were trying it on , rebranding, a long time after the fact, concensual encounters as non-concensual , trying to get their lazy sticky little hands into the "Metoo" Compensation Till.
KS equally found Not Liable in a USA Civil Court on similiar charges and his accuser had to pay costs.
His career has been ruined it seems.
I know nothing about Blades but he should not be pre-judged.

Bridie22

Is nobody on the victims side here, those who have actually been raped!

Yes me.
I think naming once charged is correct.

It can, as I said above, give other victims the courage to come forward.

Do not give the accused privileges please!

Smileless2012

The BBC does seem to be very unfortunate with its choice of male presenters doesn't it.

It still is a lovely programme JaneJudge.

I think these 'questionable' guys get a taste of TV fame and they imagine it's a licence to exert some kind of God-like power. The BBC (or whichever) are so obsessed with chasing ratings that if a show gets to be popular enough they seem to turn a blind eye to unsavoury rumours of all flavours and cossett their "stars"........until they fall from grace.

Quote NotSpaghetti Thu 14-Aug-25 00:33:40
Bridie22
Is nobody on the victims side here, those who have actually been raped!
Yes me.
I think naming once charged is correct.

It can, as I said above, give other victims the courage to come forward.

Do not give the accused privileges please!

You don’t believe in “innocent until proven guilty” ?

Anniebach

Quote Bridie22 Wed 06-Aug-25 08:47:30
Then Annie, we will have to surfice with the courts judgement won't we ?

As Timothy Evans and his family did

And the Post Office workers....

I agree Not Spaghetti, the C P S, do not bring charges of rape lightly, I think once charged, then it ok to release names, as you rightly pointed out, it does give other victims the courage to come forward.

Everyone needs to be proven guilty whether a celebrity or not.
Obviously.

I think it’s time to remind people of what the CPS actually does.
www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/cps-says-role-cps-deciding-whether-charge-individual-criminal-offence