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GrannyGravy13 Tue 12-May-26 16:08:16

Is anyone watching this dramatisation of the Black Cab rapist John Worboys.

What the police put his female victims through is so harrowing.

It’s a really difficult watch, I do hope that the way women are treated when reporting a rape or sexual assault has changed.

Plevey08 Sun 17-May-26 17:50:34

Oops sorry about that. The above was in response to Jane43

Rocketstop2 Sun 17-May-26 19:01:43

I watched it, thought it was brilliant, the women portrayed were very brave, you really felt for them.Daniel Mays was good, came across as really creepy he was a believable character. I was reading he had to have therapy after playing that role as it had preyed on his mind.

Iam64 Sun 17-May-26 19:52:25

I’m astounded that a woman would raise the issue of false allegations. They’re minuscule
Yes men rape other men as well as women and children

The key here is male sexual violence

Nannylovesshopping Sun 17-May-26 20:08:00

MT62

Nannylovesshopping

Where can I watch this please?

ITV x

Thank you😀

Iam64 Sun 17-May-26 20:18:17

Only 3percent of rape allegations are prosecuted

rafichagran Sun 17-May-26 20:26:20

I am watching it as well. The women were treated dreadfully.

Magenta8 Sun 17-May-26 20:30:44

WithNobsOnIt: I think some men feel there is no such thing as rape. they are entitled to have sex with any woman whenever they want.

I once saw a very disturbing item on Youtube in which some awful, cocky young man put forward the idea that the way to cut the rape figures at a stroke would be to decriminalise rape. He was perfectly serious and stated his sickening case in favour of the proposition.

What was also sickening were the large number of comments that appeared below the item that backed up and agreed with the idea.

I know most men don't think this way but the Gisele Pelicot case showed that large numbers of men are into non-consensual sex.

petra Sun 17-May-26 20:36:10

Magenta8
We have Andrew Tate to thank for what you saw. 🤬

Mollygo Mon 18-May-26 08:25:15

Not as serious as rape, but some parents reported a flasher, exposing himself near our primary school on a route used as a short cut by parents and even just children.

The questions were all about what were they (the parents) wearing?
Were their coats fastened up?
Did they encourage him?
The best one was, Why didn’t they follow him to see where he lived?
And that was before anything more serious happened.

Retread Mon 18-May-26 08:53:44

I wondered why reports were not also made to the Licensed Taxi Drivers Association (especially when the police were dismissive or suggested black cab drivers are above suspicion).

The actress who plays Sarah is brilliant, she’s also excellent in Slow Horses.

Iam64 Mon 18-May-26 09:28:43

Mollygo, you prettyobably know this but, it used to be thought that “flashers” posed no serious threat. In reality, it’s like any other sexual offence, when it ceases to be exciting enough, the man escalsters his behaviour

AGAA4 Mon 18-May-26 09:31:52

It is very difficult to prosecute rape as it's often one person's word against another. There would rarely be witnesses. Men often claim sex was consensual. Traumatised victims can't give clear accounts of what happened which clever defence lawyers pick up on. Also a victim's private life is searched through which puts them off going on with a case.
It's time that the weight of responsibility is focused on the accused and not the victim. I think most people claiming they were raped were raped and should be believed.

Estrellita Mon 18-May-26 12:56:08

Please explain about Carrie?!

Retread Mon 18-May-26 13:39:38

Carrie Johnson as a 19 year old Carrie Symons got into his cab, he nagged and wheedled her to take the spiked drink, she eventually took it but surreptitiously poured it on the carpet in the cab. He said something like "You have strong tolerance for alcohol". Then nagged her some more and she drank a small glass of spiked vodka.

He obviously bottled it with her because she kept saying her mother would be waiting for her at the door, so he took her home, where she collapsed as soon as she got in the door.

Wyllow3 Mon 18-May-26 13:53:53

Honestly, blaming Starmer for this! This isnt party political its about taking women seriously and actually believing victims given the scale it happens day in and day out.

What about the years and years of Conservative govt through the whole period and their inaction on these really really crucial issues of misogeny.

I was sexually assaulted last October - mixed police response, better than previously but still lacking:
people not wanting to believe male X, of considerable standing in the community could possibly have done what he did:

believed his lies..

what the heck has this to do with Starmer?🙄

Mollygo Mon 18-May-26 16:15:54

Iam64

Mollygo, you prettyobably know this but, it used to be thought that “flashers” posed no serious threat. In reality, it’s like any other sexual offence, when it ceases to be exciting enough, the man escalsters his behaviour

That’s exactly what the police added when asked what they would do.
The fact that women found it offensive carried as much weight or importance for some men as the behaviour of jocks in frocks does now. .

Wyllow3 Mon 18-May-26 17:44:05

There is a Panorama tonight at about a TV reality series where women have reported Rape or related offences.

Sounds worth a watch related to the subject generally.

"Tonight's BBC One Panorama programme, The Dark Side of Married at First Sight, airs at 8:00 PM.

The documentary investigates the Channel 4 reality show Married at First Sight UK, featuring three women who allege sexual misconduct—including two who claim they were raped—by their former on-screen husbands"
Pressure on the women not to speak up at the time.

Galaxy Mon 18-May-26 18:30:29

That doesn't surprise me at all. To me it seems that a number of those reality shows treat consent in a very cavalier manner. If you listen to some of the ex contestants of the likes of Geordie Shore they are very uncomfortable with what happened on the show. They are often very young and I am not sure there appears to be much duty of care.

Iam64 Thu 21-May-26 14:13:48

It sounds as though those awful reality tv shows have zero understanding of basic psychology or safeguarding
How can a threat to get someone to throw acid at you be dismissed as a throw away comment

Retread Thu 21-May-26 17:29:26

It does beg the question about the awful reality shows - who the hell watches that trash?! I almost typed 💩.

Obviously the Channel is getting viewing numbers.

valdali Thu 21-May-26 20:13:18

AGAA4

It is very difficult to prosecute rape as it's often one person's word against another. There would rarely be witnesses. Men often claim sex was consensual. Traumatised victims can't give clear accounts of what happened which clever defence lawyers pick up on. Also a victim's private life is searched through which puts them off going on with a case.
It's time that the weight of responsibility is focused on the accused and not the victim. I think most people claiming they were raped were raped and should be believed.

This wasn't a "date rape" though. Women don't get into a black cab weighing up the possibility of having sex with the driver - they want to get home safely. If they're wearing nightclub clothing, that's cos they've come from a nightclub and shouldn't signal anything at all to a black cab driver.
That's why the police not believing these women was so bad - there was no issue prosecuting him because of his position- the police just chose to believe that a black cab driver "wouldn't do this" & therefore the woman must be making it up.