At the risk of being shot down

I do agree it could do with “reviewing” BUT I will say that all TV programmes that run for a long period of time have to try and attract new viewers for pretty obvious reasons.

Look at the average age of the contestants?

In order to keep viewers watching of similar ages to many of the contestants, they need to try and keep something in the show to appeal to a cross section of viewers (or dressers haha).

What I really find irritating and annoying is the bit where they announce it’s time to vote! All that shouting and screaming, I hate it!

I really don’t mind the little inserts showing a bit of rehearsals or “outings”, but if they did remove that part we could have a group dance mid way from all the professionals.

There’s a ton of “celebrities” on lots of programmes I know longer know or recognise. I guess because I’m old!

I must admit, I loved it back in the day when Hollywood royalty were real stars and I recognised most celebrities.

However, times move on and we inhabit a very different world now.

I knew most people on Strictly this year.

Aveline

Humans can wear what they want but can also judge others if they want to. People can take their pick.

I think comment or make observations is a better choice of words.

Actually, imo, no one had the right to judge another human’s choice of attire.

dogsmother

Gransrock if it’s so nauseating for you, the off button is probably your best option.

I met Grayson Perry once very briefly . He was wearing normal clothes ie not dressed as a little girl and I cannot pinpoint why but I think he is afraid of women.. when you think of how wealthy men dressed in the 17th century then I feel sorry for men who would like to dress flamboyantly and fashion decrees otherwise. Transmen are another kettle of fish.

Sago

I am another that has never watched Strictly, I googled it and was very underwhelmed.
It’s just a man in a dress wanting some attention.
If you have little personality and presence then maybe you need to shock with your clothing.

If you’ve never watched it and going on Google how can you possibly comment and a rather rude one at that.Any idea of his back story? Probably not.

petra

gransruleok

Strictly come dancing is now a thing of the past in my house. Sorry - but a man floating around in a gold frock is too much.
It made me feel very uncomfortable in my own home. I switched off immediately. The powers that be will have to have a long hard look at what the public wants on a Saturday night. A dancing competition would be good - you know - one that involves dancing.

I think you’re just riling people for a laugh 😂
You are having a laugh, aren’t you 🤷‍♀️

Nothing funny there, we are perfectly entitled to feel however we wish. It's strange that you don't understand that.

Sorry wasn’t referring to gransrock or dogsmother just fatfingers

Oreo

Well, in a country where Grayson Perry is lauded and celebrated done up as a little girl I would say we may well have gone past the point of no return.Where men say they are women and that they have a lady penis.Where women who complain about men in their changing rooms or are put on a mixed hospital ward when ill and vulnerable are told nothing can be done and to shut up.
Where kids in school can claim they’re a cat and want respect from teachers, or where teachers can be suspended or fired for forgetting pronouns.
A bloke flouncing around in a gold dress is small potatoes.

👏👏👏 Oreo, you have summed it all up in a nutshell. The madness of modern life.

Chestnut

Oreo

Well, in a country where Grayson Perry is lauded and celebrated done up as a little girl I would say we may well have gone past the point of no return.Where men say they are women and that they have a lady penis.Where women who complain about men in their changing rooms or are put on a mixed hospital ward when ill and vulnerable are told nothing can be done and to shut up.
Where kids in school can claim they’re a cat and want respect from teachers, or where teachers can be suspended or fired for forgetting pronouns.
A bloke flouncing around in a gold dress is small potatoes.

👏👏👏 Oreo, you have summed it all up in a nutshell. The madness of modern life.

Spot on Oreo

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Joannes Radebe is not “floating around”. He’s co-presenting a popular TV show which is as much about flamboyant costumes as it is about the dancing. Did anyone ever say Tess or Claudia were “floating around”?

He’s known for his style. If you look at a line up of the presenters and the judges each week, if anyone looks out of place dress-wise, it’s Josh.

Skirts are very much part of traditional African male clothing and more common now in gender fluid dressing. So what?

The 2003 MMA exhibition Bravehearts was all about the history of men in skirts.

Designers and fashion houses represented in that exhibition included Miguel Adrover, AmeriKilt, Giorgio Armani, John Bartlett, Ozwald Boateng, Bodymap, Leigh Bowery, Burberry, Roberto Cavalli, Christian Dior Haute Couture, Comme des Garçon, Dolce & Gabbana, Dries van Noten, John Galliano, Jean Paul Gaultier, Rudi Gernreich, Tom Ford for Gucci, Tommy Hilfiger, Juicy Couture, Donna Karan, Kenzo, Michiko Koshino, Sandra Kuratle for AMOK, Andrew McKenzie, Alexander McQueen, Moschino Couture, Philip Sallon, Paul Smith, Stuart Stockdale for Pringle of Scotland, Anna Sui, 21st Century Kilts, Utilikilts, Walter van Beirendonck, Vivienne Westwood, and Yohji Yamamoto.

Super. But I reserve the right to judge. I'm human. It's what humans do no matter how deplorable some people think it.

Every one is entitled to their opinion
But I like Jo Jo, His dance knowledge is excellent and enjoyable to hear when he's talking to the contestants. Whereas Motsi (IMO) just waffles on.

I also enjoy his flamboyant clothing.
I remember watching Danny La Rue as a child and im a massive Bowie fan. Its art and dance

What a strange post

Never watched but like Josh very much so gave it a go. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a presenter looking so uncomfortable.

Well said Graphite 10:53

To not want to watch a TV which you don’t enjoy is absolutely fine.

Ridiculing and insulting an extremely hard working and mega talented performer for his “costume” is quite another.

I didn’t much care for Emma’s outfit last night, she’s worn much nicer things, more to my taste, but her choice of dress doesn’t affect her great presenting skills. Another person who has worked extremely hard to get where she is and manage a family and a husband who has certainly given her challenges, in my humble opinion, is to be applauded.

Don’t like Strictly? Don’t watch it.

I cannot stand this plethora of reality shows we have like Love Island and Big Brother, and many others, I simply don’t watch them. The people might be great people, but as I don’t watch it and know nothing about it, I neither comment nor judge them.

Aveline

Super. But I reserve the right to judge. I'm human. It's what humans do no matter how deplorable some people think it.

I don’t think it’s deplorable, I just find it odd!

That goes with ways

Both

I really miss Johannes’ dancing. I enjoyed his performances the most.

I agree Johannes comes across as a bit OTT, in his dress, his speech and his mannerisms.

But I think he has adjusted to his new role well.

He brings a different vibe to ‘upstairs, his dancing expertise and empathy comes to the fore in his comments to the contestants, and his impromptu ‘turns’ with them are entertaining.

Whether the new line up will carry on into next year is another matter.

Does anyone remember Come Dancing? My mum a keen ballroom dancer used to watch it.
I've never really enjoyed ballroom dancing and don't like all the hysterical shrieking that goes on in Strictly so have only watched parts of it on BBC breakfast.
If you don't like it it's easy these days to find something else.

TerriBull

I didn't watch last night so can't comment. However, I think it's a reasonable opinion to think the whole format could do with an overhaul. We were avid viewers at one time, it was always synonymous with the run up to Christmas. Occasionally I'll have it on on my laptop whilst I'm preparing our Saturday evening meal to which my o/h will say something like "you're not still watching that" well not with much enthusiasm. Like a lot of people, I'm only interested in the dances and the rest of the content is so overloaded with nonsense. For example those stupid skits that form a preface to the dance is the first item I'd get rid of they're really annoying. It's definitely time for an overhaul, the dancing content is too minimal as an overall percentage of the time allotted to the programme.

I agree with Terribull

The whole programme has got out of hand, OTT and turned into a parody of itself.
The judges often look ridiculous, they should maintain some professionalism.

Whether the new line up will carry on into next year is another matter.

Whether the show will carry on in its present format is another matter, or indeed at all.

It's been quite hard to watch this year and I keep wishing Tess and Claudia were still presenting. The new line up is not right and I'm beginning to feel sorry for Josh as he looks like he'd rather be somewhere else.

Something is missing that made Strictly the special show that it used to be.

Men in frocks don’t bother me, the whole changing sex palava is another matter but that’s just because I find it hard to understand, however, I don’t watch weekend telly, is usually tracky and too loud, so can’t comment on Strictly, I prefer to read or listen to music.

the whole changing sex palava is another matter but that’s just because I find it hard to understand
Thst's because it's not possible unless you are a fish or an amphibian.

JenniRen

^Whether the new line up will carry on into next year is another matter.^

Whether the show will carry on in its present format is another matter, or indeed at all.

I have read that the presenter line up and format will be the same for the next series.