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Should she go back?

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Mollygo Fri 28-Aug-20 12:14:51

My sister-in-law who is 70 still teaches part time in a primary school. She worked from home during lockdown but is now, not unreasonably, expected to go back to work. She’s happy to do so but she asked whether I thought she should. I don’t know what to say.

Pippa22 Sat 29-Aug-20 11:51:56

I think it is selfish at her age and with her doubts to be dithering about going back into work. Why not retire and make space for someone younger and fitter and probably with fresh ideas . None of us like to think that we are getting older, slower and set in our ways but unfortunately that is part of the aging process.

Freemind Sat 29-Aug-20 11:53:11

I would struggle to teach a language while wearing a mask - most children need to see the mouth shape as well as hear clearly. I also doubt the value of face visors as protection in normal situations, but it might give a sense of security. Your SiL will know her school and how important her job is for her. I imagine she is just trying to see if there are any relevant factors she has not considered and other people are often very good at offering a different perspective.

grandtanteJE65 Sat 29-Aug-20 12:00:32

If she is healthy and living alone, then she is only putting herself at risk.

It is a different proposition if she is living in a household with others.

She has asked for your opinion. In your place I would tell her honestly that I had no idea what to advise her to do.

icanhandthemback Sat 29-Aug-20 12:30:26

Pippa22‬, have you any idea of how hard it is to find teachers these days? The profession often loses teachers after they have finished their training and they've done a few years because it is such a draining job. Asking someone's opinion isn't dithering. She has already said she is going back. However, as you have to give in your notice at very specific times so there is time to recruit, she might be thinking that this is the time to be doing it. She only has until half term to make that decision and it is not one she would want to make lightly.

Albangirl14 Sat 29-Aug-20 12:37:38

Today in the Times there is an article about extra teachers will be needed for small group teaching etc to help children catch up . This Teacher may leave class teaching and go back as part time support as I would be willing to do as a retired teacher of 69.

maddyone Sat 29-Aug-20 13:31:51

I’m a retired teacher and no way would I go back at this difficult time. I hung up my chalk when I was 59 and retired to a life without school stresses. Personally I think 70 is too old to be dealing with young children or young people.

The loss of adequately qualified teachers in modern foreign languages, maths, and the sciences has been going on for some years now. Certainly one reason is because many students choose to study ‘easier’ degrees, and they simply refuse to enrol on science courses or language courses. The result of this is that fewer of these courses are now offered at universities. My husband, as well as teaching, was also the Examinations Secretary at the independent school where he taught, and he dealt with the universities every year as he negotiated places for his students after exam results were released. He was concerned for years that students were not choosing traditional academic courses and that these courses were consequently drying up. That is not to say that there are no academic courses and students choosing to follow them, and many courses such as medicine and the sciences remain as rigorous as they always were. Courses at the best universities also remain high in quality, but unfortunately there has been a huge dumbing down in the quality of courses offered and the quality of the teaching and learning in some of the newer institutions.

Bearing all this in mind, it is not surprising that the 70 year old teacher has been asked to go back to teaching. But if a younger person can be found, then the job should be available for a younger person. In my opinion.

Daftbag1 Sat 29-Aug-20 13:38:48

I have No idea is the answer, but big boy Boris assures us that schools are completely safe!

Emelle Sat 29-Aug-20 14:34:21

I retired from teaching acouple of years ago so haven't had to make the decision. The school I worked at is right in the middle of one of the worst affected wards in East Lancashire so OH and I have both said that had I still been working, I would have resigned. So I think that each teacher has to do their own risk assessment and make their decision.

kwest Sat 29-Aug-20 14:53:22

I would not consider it. Over 70s are much more vulnerable to the virus. This is all happening on a 'wing and a prayer'. There will be some collateral damage but I think the Government think it is a price worth paying. I would not want to be part of the collateral damage.

jocork Sat 29-Aug-20 18:00:05

I was due to retire in July but couldn't bear to go from 'working from home' so put off my retirement. I'm an LSA in a secondary school so I'm worried about not being able to distance from the students that we support one to one. We were told we could wear visors but not masks. I'm hoping that will have changed when we go back next week, but if it hasn't, and I don't feel safe, I'll be giving my notice straight away. I won't know until the kids come back on 7th of September but at least I'll feel I'm leaving properly if I go back for a month. I think things are a little safer in primary schools. It is so much more difficult to know what teenagers are getting up to outside school and what risks they are taking so I feel more vulnerable.
I think all of us need to assess our individual workplaces and take appropriate action if we feel unsafe. If I leave it may provide a job for someone whose job has gone due to covid. Of course they may simply not replace me and expect my colleagues to take up the (non-existant) slack!

maddyone Sat 29-Aug-20 18:23:25

Good decision jocork, hope it works out for you.

FarNorth Sat 29-Aug-20 19:59:04

Transparent masks are available.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/extras/indybest/face-mask-covering-clear-transparent-deaf-hidden-disability-exemption-card-coronavirus-a9634151.html%3famp

I would not put myself at risk by allowing an employer to insist on no mask.

As kwest said-
There will be some collateral damage but I think the Government think it is a price worth paying. I would not want to be part of the collateral damage.

Pippa22 Sun 30-Aug-20 19:34:40

icanhandthemback, I am fully aware about the difficulty of recruiting teachers, I was one. However I was aware as I got older and also by observing colleagues that we were not giving our best to our pupils by being in school long after we would have previously retired. A shortage of appropriate teachers is not a good reason for hanging onto a job that is ore suited to teachers younger than nearly 70. Add in Covid risks and it seems that retirement is the obvious answer.

Thistlelass Thu 08-Apr-21 12:58:54

Oh come on! Why should she not check it out with her lovely sister-in- law?! I am sure she will formulate her own opinion overall and make her decision. I think it is healthy she is seeking another perspective. There is no reason to leave the job for the benefit of a younger worker. Such a suggestion is ageist. I think I would encourage her to make lists of the positives and negatives for going back. Also maybe asking herself what, if anything, she hopes to gain by remaining in her profession. Be interesting to hear how this one goes.