to want HATE campaigns against foreigners in the popular Press to stop...

Not criticising, just making a note to myself and anyone else who may want to get it back on track, someone up thread mentioned a scape-goat and I can't remember why.

Perhaps this thread isn't the right forum, but you did raise the matter and I've simply commented on it.

It is a subject which has been and will be much discussed, no doubt. Like Mary Magdalene.
hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Biblical-Villians-Re-Examining-a-Bad-Reputation-Judas
But probably not on this thread

Yes Jalima there needed to be a crucifixion and it's fair to say that Judas was the means to an end but it was his decision to betray Jesus.

He'd spent time with Him, listened to Him preach and witnessed some of the miracles He performed. God didn't use Judas to betray Jesus, it was Judas' decision. Judas was not an innocent victim used by God, he was his own man.

It was not God that made Judas betray Jesus, it was his own weakness and greed and he did so in the knowledge that Jesus knew what he was going to do and warned him of the consequences.

Luke 22 v 22 "But the hand of him who is going to betray me is with mine on the table. The Son of man will go as it has been decreed, but woe to that man who betrays Him".

But - it was God's plan surely?
If there had not been a betrayal there may not have been a crucifixion and - perhaps no Christianity.

So Judas was the means to an end and used as the scapegoat.

"Judas Iscariot was and is a scapegoat". He betrayed his friend, his teacher and his mentor for money. He wasn't a goat that had the sins of people placed upon it and was then sent out into the desert. He had free will, he did a terrible thing and paid for it with his life, as did the man he betrayed.

Is that the Mail group hedging its bets?

Well, it was very much pro Remain (apparently)
According to some who know.

is the SM any different?

Yes really durhamjen. Im working class and what's happened is... Zero hour contracts and cheap labour. Exploitation by the wealthy.

I think it has been covered quite extensively in various forms over the years djen, as they had a 'Dignity for the Elderly' Campaign running.

Not sure how an opinion on any newspaper can be so excoriating if one has not read the publication thoroughly and regularly.


ps the Daily Mail does not come out on Sundays as far as I know.

Why don't you look online to find out? Would it contaminate you in some way?

By the way, I don't read the DM. I do read the articles to which I am directed by contributors on here, which is not quite the same. I have the Observer today, which will probably take me a week to read. The main article today is very worrying - about the fact that elderly care is close to collapse as council funding runs out.
Is it in the DM?

Really? How do you work that out?
Somebody else must be getting my money, then.

The ones that profess peace and love are usually the ones getting richer by mass immigration

Judas Iscariot was and is a scapegoat.

Christ was a scapegoat.

All this makes me laugh. So many people profess to hate the Daily Mail yet they read it Its also the newspaper of my choice.

Hasn't anyone wondered why all this is happening?

For a decade now anyone who has had a problem with the sheer influx of immigrants has been called a racist.

Maybe the last few prime ministers have a lot to answer for.

theconversation.com/the-dirty-politics-of-scapegoating-and-why-victims-are-always-the-harmless-easy-targets-66963

Is this why newspapers can get away with what they say?

There actually was a scapegoat which was cast out of society. Poor goat didn't do anything wrong but was unable to stand up for itself.

So give it a rest.

nellymoser all I would say is that nobody cares about your ethnic origins.

Nelliemoser
All I will say is that I think you totally misinterpreted POGS's post.

We know of no-one's origins, backgrounds etc unless someone chooses to tell us and I don't know why it would make any difference.

All I will say on this thread is that I am glad no one knows about my Ethnic origins.

You might be a little cross.
Understatement of the year!

I have been called nuts on here (apart from other things):
Do the words crazy and nuts mean someone who has mental problems/illness or someone who has abnormal, odd or nonsense behaviors?

I would say it is more an excuse to make more profits than an explanation whitewave

granjura when I said lost in translation I did not mean you did not translate from your native language into English very well (have just realised the implication), I meant it as a saying; that one person can say something but someone else may put an entirely different interpretation on it.