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matson Fri 26-Jan-18 12:14:46

Annoyed about this, surely female presenters salaries should have been raised to the same level as the male presenters? It is surely a bit insulting to the women that they are not worth what the men were earning!

Peardrop50 Sat 27-Jan-18 12:32:30

Of course I agree that pay should be on merit and not gender. Hopefully we are moving in that direction.
It would be wonderful if the law stated that no one could earn more than the Prime Minister, the wealth could be shared more evenly although there’d be less tax in the coffers but perhaps we’d need less if the wealth were distributed more fairly. Close to Utopia.
Unfortunately we don’t live in that sort of world and the upshot would be that we’d lose the creme de la creme to the highest bidders abroad. While I’m happy to lose the overpaid footballers and celebrities, I don’t want our top scientists, medics, etc., leaving in droves.

Camelotclub Sat 27-Jan-18 12:20:01

They should raise the women's salaries and lower the men's so they meet in the middle! Won't cost any more.

grannybuy Sat 27-Jan-18 12:04:34

I wonder if the amazing work of the camera man on nature programmes earns him/her as high a salary as the presenter

Eloethan Sat 27-Jan-18 11:35:36

Bringing down the male salary scales does not address the fact that for years they have been earning far more than the females for doing a comparable job - and for years these women have lost out.

Of course, there are differences in pay in respect to on and off camera staff. But it wouldn't be right for a camerawoman to earn less than a cameraman, unless her role was significantly different.

ExaltedWombat Sat 27-Jan-18 11:29:57

It isn't a pay scale. It's an amount negotiated with the performer's agent, just as for a star actor. The going rate for women seems to have been lower. Now they'll be asking for more. And we can start complaining about the pay differences between those in front of the camera and behind it. There are many inequalities other than the gender one.

Craftycat Sat 27-Jan-18 11:26:05

I think it was right to bring down the male salaries rather than increase the females. It is far too much to earn for what is often a part-time job anyway.
I can't wait to see what happens when female footballers ask for the same pay as the men. Maybe at last they will get the ridiculous amount of money these posing players earn reduced to a level similar to that which Rugby players earn!

radicalnan Sat 27-Jan-18 11:11:04

They are all paid vastly too much..................

Margs Sat 27-Jan-18 11:08:28

Well, yes, why not increase women's salaries to the same level as the men's?

But the, as many a WASPI Woman can tell you, the government decided to equalise male and female State Pensions by whacking women's qualifying age up to 65 - same as men - and then adding another year on top for both men and women.

IF the pension qualifying age had been brought down to 63 for men and raised to 63 for women that would have been much fairer.

But central government doesn't do fair, does it?

nipsmum Sat 27-Jan-18 11:00:38

Leaving the BBC aside for a moment, I asked a boss in the 90 s why a male staff nurse was getting paid more than his female colleagues, to be told men have homes and families to keep. I was so gobsmacked I had no reply at the time. It's not something new it has always been this way and until all women protest it won't change.

Amma54 Sat 27-Jan-18 10:49:19

But Grampie, Carrie Gracie went to China leaving her children here! You can hardly say she lacked commitment to the job. I totally disagree that it's not about gender: there still seems an idea that men need more to live on than women.

yggdrasil Sat 27-Jan-18 10:44:47

As I heard her say, she didn't want to go to China, and only agreed to go if she got the same pay as the men. This was agreed, and it was only some time later she found out they had lied. They then offered her a pay rise, which was the last straw and why she went public

Biggirlsdontcry Sat 27-Jan-18 10:39:52

Carrie Grace has not left the BBC , only the China programme

Ginny42 Sat 27-Jan-18 10:10:16

Can the work of someone like Claudia Winkleman presenting Strictly ever be compared with the excellent and often dangerous work done by the professional journalists Carrie Grace, Lyse Doucet, and Orla Guerin?

BRedhead59 Sat 27-Jan-18 09:59:36

We have to get away from the myth - that we have to pay high salaries to get the best people - it's nonsense don't we want the best nurses, teachers, they haven't had a decent pay rise for years.

tonibolt Sat 27-Jan-18 09:57:45

I read in the paper that male presenters on the staff, (as opposed to those on Fixed Term Contract) were some of the highest earners as salaries had been fixed some years ago. The BBC cannot just reduce their pay without their agreement, so I suppose it is to their credit that 6 have agreed to substantial cuts. It could be viewed as insulting to the women, but tbh I would rather the BBC wage bill didn’t rise any further, as some of the salaries were frankly ridiculous.

Teetime Sat 27-Jan-18 09:49:48

It sounds to me that the BBC doesn't have a proper job evaluation scheme and remuneration structure that is fair to all. Other public bodies have to have this.

Lyndie Sat 27-Jan-18 09:45:01

The BBC should be nurturing new talent not sticking with the old ones. There used to be poaching between ITV and BBC but that doesn’t happen anymore. There salaries were negotiated at that time, that’s why they are so high. Although I notice the men get older and older but the women seem to have an age cut off point.

Grampie Sat 27-Jan-18 09:34:22

Being well qualified and committed to the work we negotiate our pay and then we accept what we’ve negotiated or we walk away to find a better offer.

Being well qualified but half-hearted, perhaps due to family commitments, we may settle for less.

The pay gap is a function of our commitment to the job not our gender.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Sat 27-Jan-18 09:26:22

I agree with equal pay. If men and women do the same job the pay should be the same. Having said that, their salaries seem ridiculous when you look at the average wage for we ordinary folk.
Obviously I was in the wrong job! Ah, if only I'd been brave enough when I was younger - maybe I could have bought a box of records and become a deejay - who knows where it could have lead? Maybe I could have got onto Radio 2 and then people would be complaining about my salary - ha, ha.

TwiceAsNice Fri 26-Jan-18 18:45:14

Agree men and women should get exactly the same for the same job but sorry I love Claudia Winkleman on Strictly she always makes me laugh.

Jalima1108 Fri 26-Jan-18 17:48:48

I am sorry that Carrie Gracie has left, I thought her reports from China were outstanding.

I agree about Lyse Doucet, love her accent too
And Orla Guerin - another extremely brave and talented correspondent.

NanKate Fri 26-Jan-18 16:47:06

How Claudia Winkleman can be paid such an exorbitant wage I do not know. She totters about on ankle breaking heels with her fringe almost hiding her eyes, I despair.

Now I think Lyse Doucet our Chief Foreign correspondent earns every penny, going to worn torn parts of the world reporting in a clear and understandable way.

NotTooOld Fri 26-Jan-18 16:37:19

PS and that should include footballers.

NotTooOld Fri 26-Jan-18 16:36:31

I think no-one should be paid more than the prime minister. That would bring down all the BBC salaries plus a good few more in other organisations. And of course women doing the same job as men should be paid the same.

matson Fri 26-Jan-18 15:40:35

But she doesn't, just a paltry £450,000 compared to Jeremys £700,000! How are these salaries decided and justified ?