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Willow500 Mon 30-May-16 06:56:15

I've been thinking about this a lot lately. I don't actually have any friends I could go out with for girlie meals or on holiday which makes me wonder if it's me or just circumstances. We left the town I grew up in when we were in our late 20's and although we made friends with the people on the housing estate around us when we moved away again we didn't keep in touch and I never really had a 'girlfriend' apart from one who lives in our home town 60 miles away. We used to spend a lot of time together when our children were little as they're the same ages but obviously when we moved that stopped and now she's surrounded by a great group of friends she goes out with regularly, goes on holiday with and who are always looking out for each other. I do have my sister in law but she also lives 40 miles away, works and has her own family around her. Our family are 2 hours away and on the other side of the world so we are literally on our own. My husband is the same and has never had a mate he could go to the pub with or a football match. We had friends from when he was in a couple of clubs - their wives are also in the WI I belong to but once we became carers for my parents they sort of drifted away and now I don't feel I belong in their circle any more and find it hard to find something to talk about if I meet them as they're all retired and several years older. I work full time from home so have no work colleagues to chat to either. I look on social media and feel envious when I see posts and photos of outings or what someone is up to that day. This makes me sound very sad I know and I'm not really that sort of person - I'm not depressed and generally quite upbeat but I do wonder if life would have been different if we'd stayed in one place. We were married and had a child at 17 so missed out on all the nightlife and partying that went on around us which is probably when you make your lifelong friends. It does worry me a bit when I think of the day one of us will be on our own and who we will have to turn to. Does anyone else feel the same?

oznan Mon 30-May-16 10:36:43

I totally agree with DanniRae about dog walking,you will soon get talking to lots of different people.If you don't have or want a dog,how about volunteering as a dog walker at a local rescue centre?
Libraries usually have lots of groups too-near me there are coffee mornings,local history groups,craft groups and genealogy groups for instance.They are friendly and welcoming,just local people with a common interest.

McGilchrist41 Mon 30-May-16 10:47:22

Hi. Willow. As has been said this is a common problem. I moved north after I lost my best friend my husband, to live near daughter and fam.
I found the U3A and craft groups were a help. You may not make good friends but you will find people in the same circumstances as yourself and have a bit of fun and laughter. I found Sumdays were bad so I now volunteer for the National Trust on that day where I meet lots of people.
You are lucky to still have the support of your husband.

Victoria08 Mon 30-May-16 10:50:23

I quite agree with michel55. I also find it confusing when these abbreviations are used.
It takes me a while to fathom out what they mean, and sometimes I don't get it at all.

On the subject of friends.
Obviously it's a two way thing. I always seem to be the one to have to contact friends, usually because they lead busy lives, and I don't, particularly.

I only have a small circle of friends, but I do value them highly.

silverlining48 Mon 30-May-16 11:01:09

It certainly can be difficult making new friends in later life. I am active and walk with a very friendly group, But we don't meet apart from the weekly walk. Many people are very involved with family which usually take precedence over friends however close. We have a daughter and two small grandchildren who we look after one dat a week, and a daughter living abroad, but no wider family support.
We have remained in the same aRea for many years while most of my friends have moved away . We keep in touch but we can't just meet for a coffee and a quick chat, or see a film , it's always planned with overnight stays due to distance. There are times when I feel a bit at a loose end so plan to start some voluntary work next week. It may not provide me with new friends but it will be good to feel useful. I also intend looking at u3a. My closest friend of nearly 40 years has recently moved to a small village 3 hours drive from us and for the first time in her life is thoroughly integrated into active village life. She has never been happier. If it wasn't so far from my grandchildren would consider upping sticks and going there too.

silverlining48 Mon 30-May-16 11:05:28

Yes I too struggle with all the initials used. Had to Guess and hope I got it right.

Blinko Mon 30-May-16 11:29:30

Michel55, Vic08 and silverlining48 re initials and abbreviations, just look under Acronyms at the top of the page. Most are there, though admittedly some do creep in that seem to be made up on the hoof...

TriciaF Mon 30-May-16 11:31:14

I've given up trying to remember the abbreviations. Especially since some new ones seem to have crept in lately.
I just write the words.
It takes effort to make and keep friends. We live out in the country and everyone is at a distance. I have one friend in the village and we go shopping and walking together, but less than before, as we can't walk so far (old age sad)

Jasperis1 Mon 30-May-16 11:31:48

Hi goose 1964 I'm the same and don't know anyone really where I live and can't bring myself to walk into a group of any sort where I just don't know anyone.

Joyfully Mon 30-May-16 11:39:33

Have you heard of StreetLife? It's an online daily message service that lets people know what is going on in the area. I think it's brilliant, especially for older folk. In my area someone started up 'Simply Making Friends' and they meet up for coffee, meals and drinks. It covers all age groups. They sound like great people as they will sort out transport too if you need it.
It's also good to make friends with younger people. They have lots of interesting things to say, and are happy to hear what you have to say, as in the pearls of wisdom we older generation have. I think we are so lucky in that we have the Internet to help us find friends.

Tegan Mon 30-May-16 12:02:37

I have a schoolfriend that posts lots of photos on Facebook showing her meeting up with friends (and family) on a regular basis, and must admit to wondering where I went wrong, especially as she, like me, has moved around a lot. However, when I think about it, I'm not a great one for socialising, although very rarely go out without getting into long conversations with complete strangers.u3a and WI never worked for me. But I've made some great friends through Gransnet that are like my handful of friend from my past that, even though I don't see them very often it seems like we only met up yesterday.

silverlining48 Mon 30-May-16 12:17:15

Thanks, will have a look

silverlining48 Mon 30-May-16 12:21:38

I meant thanks to blinko . Was on a site about estrangement yesterday, a whole new lot of acronyms to work out. I got ac after a while..adult children I think? The rest , well I was back to guessing. However reading some of those posts though my life isn't without problem, made me feel I am lucky not to have live with that situation.

Synonymous Mon 30-May-16 12:36:10

Willow There are many helpful posts on here. It is hard and you do need to work at it.
It is even harder if you are not physically able to 'keep up' with others as you do get 'dropped'. Make the most of all your opportunities! smile
I am deeply suspicious of all those social situations being 'displayed' on Facebook! Recently we went out for a meal and the family on the large table just along from us spent the whole time on their various technologies and only stopped long enough to take photos so they could post them and never once did we see any of them laughing and joking or interacting in any other way. The poor kids were very bored and just picked at their food, fidgeted, whined and clearly couldn't wait to leave as they were the first out of the door. Not every picture tells the true story! hmm

silverlining48 Mon 30-May-16 12:48:32

I do agree synonymous, I saw a card in a national trust property recently which really made me smile. A drawing of all generations together in a room , all on iPads and the card said something like 'spending family time together'. It happened to me recently when daughter who lives abroad made one of her rare visits and spent a lot of time on her iPad 'speaking' to friends. Facebook can give the wrong impression. it seems everyone wants to impress with their friends and social life, yet do not converse with those who they are sitting with. Strange.

Neversaydie Mon 30-May-16 13:22:22

My longest standing friend is from school-55years-the newest 3 years U3a .Which I can endorse for making new friendhips.
I too have moved around a lot but the friend above stayed in our home town and I always made (and still make)the effort to see her when I go 'home" .We don't phone email or text but recently I spent the afternoon with her the morning my beloved brother died. She was 'there'for me .I hadn't seen her for 18 months .I think because we grew up together we are emotionally very close.There isn't much I wouldnt share with her
I think because I married late I made a real effort to stay in touch with friends from Uni,people I've lived with (acid test that one) and various workplaces .Since I retired I see socially ex -work colleagues ,whom I used to manage .My closest local friend is someone I met at NCT classes when our eldests(now 30) were on the way.There isn't much I wouldn't tell her either .
And I have a group of five local friends I met through the NWR -we broke away ...meet fortnightly and have done for 30 years .But rarely see them outside the group
I suppose the point I'm making us that you have to make a real effort to nuture friendships .And maybe it helps if you are a fairly open person and dont mind revealing quite a lot of yourself to people?Not immediately obviously ....
I think as well you have to distinguish between tried and true friends,usually long standing though not always, with whom you'd share most things (I would say I have about 6 of those) close friends (about another 20) and people you know and like and will chat to at a meeting or whatever quite regularly and might have a coffee with if you bumped into them .Lots of those.
I've never been that bothered about having friends as a couple though .

Diddy1 Mon 30-May-16 14:26:28

We moved ebout ten miles from our previous house, just three years ago, there arent many houses where we live now, everyone works, nobody at home during the day, we are much older than the rest of the families around they are VERY difficult to get to know, I put it down to our age, families with small childre dont have the time, or inclnation, to get to know us, I am a "people person", having been a District Nurse for many years, but these people dont want to know us. I decided to find friends in other places, joined a nice group of elderly people, I am the youngest at 74! but I do enjoy their company once a week, then I have my old work friends who want to meet often, which we do, so some weeks I dont have any "free"day, now I dont bother if the neighbours havnt got time for us "oldies", they dont know what they are missing!

Diddy1 Mon 30-May-16 14:39:04

Dear Michel 55 if you think it is difficult making friends in the UK you should try living in Sweden!
I agree with you about the shortening of words to DD,DH, etc, before I found FORUM acronyms I was lost, now I have the list beside me, when I read Gransnet, which I love.

Willow500 Mon 30-May-16 14:47:08

Wow thanks to all of you for your responses - it's kind of reassuring I'm not alone feeling like this and for all the different reasons. We really do need to get out there and make an effort to start a new life and there are some great suggestions here. Sadly we can't have another dog as we have 2 cats although I must admit watching a program recently about choosing a new puppy had me thinking how nice it might be but common sense tells me this is not a good idea for us. I will go to the next WI meeting and maybe suggest to those I do know that we should go out for lunch one day. It's too easy to blame work pressures for not being proactive and I maybe need to assert myself more with that and take more time off (today being bank holiday I still feel very guilty that I'm not actually working). I can agree with the demise of conversations between families - the last time we were together my two granddaughters, eldest's boyfriend and my DIL were all on their phones messaging etc. so there was actually only my son having a conversation with us. I remember sitting at my in-laws having deep and meaningful discussions for hours when we visited which I loved to do - they would have thought it very rude if we'd spent all our time looking at screens and talking to friends!

Newquay Mon 30-May-16 15:02:45

When our family were here at Christmas eldest DGD was on phone at the table so I texted her and asked if she wanted pudding and carried on serving everyone else. After a while she looked up and said have u just texted me Gran! Oh how we all larfed!

Ramblingrose22 Mon 30-May-16 15:02:54

Dear Alea, Greyduster, Nelliemoser and others - how I empathise about the difficulty of finding new friends! I agree with the warnings about Facebook (FB). People may have loads of FB friends but that is just for show. They may make out that they are having the best time ever but I find that those who don't show off about it are the genuine ones.

I imagine (though cannot prove) that there are lots of newly retired women like myself living in my area who are also looking to meet new friends after retiring, but how to meet them?.

I understand that I will have to make the effort and I know that I tend to assume that I'll have nothing in common with other women of my age because I have found this countless times in the past - eg with other mothers collecting from school who all wore the same type of clothes, had husbands in the same professions and went on holiday to the same places. If you didn't fit in with their way of life, you didn't fit in full stop.

I have been busy since retiring with sorting out a lot of long-winded tasks, but rather than wait for those to be completed, I will try out the local Gransnet Meet Up group and other local groups/classes.

Michel55 - I am a devoted Francophile and more than happy to stay in touch and talk in French. Feel free to private message me if you like.

Synonymous Mon 30-May-16 15:30:06

The DGD only have limited time on their screens because they are of the age that we can limit them at present. Often we ban them completely, adults too, and then we all have the best of times all together.
It is very rude to keep half an eye on a device when in company but it is an addiction just like any other. sad

f77ms Mon 30-May-16 15:31:48

michel55 I so agree with your comments about DD DH OH . Why not Daughter or Son , Husband or grandchild ! Is it an Americanism I wonder ?

f77ms Mon 30-May-16 15:36:02

I agree with all the comments about looking endlessly at screens , it is SO rude . Love newquays solution , I hope it had the desired effect .

dorsetpennt Mon 30-May-16 15:51:27

Most of my friends I knew when my children were at primary school. Also, due to my father being in the Forces, I went to so many schools I don't have any school friends. I moved a lot both here and abroad as an adult so friends are scattered far and wide. However, I settled down and made some good friends. Our lives,now we are all retired , are taking different paths. One friend's husband has dementia so not around as much. Another takes full time care of her grandchildren . Sadly , a dear friend died eighteen months ago, all the plans we had when I finally retired that year were scuppered. Her passing has hit me very hard indeed. Most old people have friends and aren't really wanting or needing to make new ones. I've joined a Craft Group and have met some lovely but people it's not the same.

sillup Mon 30-May-16 16:05:06

We moved when I was 61 and it is definitely harder to make friends than it was at the school gate or when working. I found a website Streetlife.co.ok, which is aimed at developing local communities to be really useful. I've met lots of great people and also a very handy place to get recommendations for tradesmen etc. Maybe have a look and see if it exists in your area Willow500. Good luck.