Recording Boris and partner

What I object to in all the discussion (not just on Gransnet) around this topic, the one about Mark Field and many others where 'misdemeanors' are excused, is the many commentators who state that we have ALL had too much to drink/overreacted/lost the plot/went too far/etc. I object because I cannot think of a single instance in all my long life where I did any of the above. I do not regard myself as some sort of sainted person, just representative of the vast majority of people.

We lived for some years in a badly soundproofed modern block of maisonettes, where we could all hear if someone was singing, a baby was crying, someone was running a bath. This was very annoying, but all the families did their best to minimise noise and there was some grumbling but no aggression among the residents - a random selection of families.

But that is not the point I am trying to make. My point is that in all those years of hearing everything that was going on, I never, ever heard anything of concern - no shouting and swearing, no bairns getting thumped and bawling, no screaming matches, no slamming of doors, or banging on doors demanding entry. We had the only phone in the block and consequently were asked a few times to report medical emergencies, but never to call the police. I am not naive, I spent 18+ years as a Women's Aid worker and know of all the awful things that go on behind closed doors and sometimes in public places, but to justify abuse and violence by claiming that we ALL do it is ridiculous.

Anyone else agree with me?

I'm surprised he doesn't get a private detective outside. These cutbacks.
They must have been very loud.
I've once called the police when I heard what I thought was a child being battered. I was never told the upshot.

It's an insight to Bojo's character. And not altogether surprising. The pile of parking tickets also alarms me.

Exactly HurdyGurdy ......those neighbours heard the Kerching! Of money heading their way.
But that’s how things always are isn’t it? Johnson needs to be more ‘circumspect’ and his partner/girlfriend too.

One does have to wonder if the 'neighbour' had been handsomely paid in advance for any recordings of Boris and his girlfriend. Most couples row. There is nothing unusual in this.

What is more worrying is a newspaper setting up a person in public life in order to produce a money-making exposé.

The story says far more about the neighbour and the intrusion of the press than it does about Johnson and his partner.

No granny23 afraid not, as most couple do have the occasional ding dong, (verbal) and bet most on GN have if they are being honest.

So concerned that he ( or she ) decided to tape the argument & call a left wing newspaper?

Yes. Exactly that Kandinsky

I doubt there is many on this forum whose little ding dongs were able to be heard in the street or whose husband/partner was told to get off me!!

We certainly have never displayed such behaviour.

I doubt there are many on this forum, whose partner is intending to lead the Tory party and perhaps become the next PM of the U.K.

I would hope that our standards expect far better than the sort of morality displayed by Johnson.

Crikey granny23, my dear late husband & I had some real humdingers of arguments, but the make ups were lovely. He even locked me out in the garden for a bit to help me calm down We were married for 35 passionate years.

How boring to be with someone where voicers aren't raised and you can't give your partner a piece of your mind in a raised voice.

I thibnk it shows the dubious motives of the nosey neighbours when they gave the recording to The Guardian. I wonder if money changed hands! Very murky intentions.

Whether you like Boris or not this does seem to have been hyped up by the media. I just wonder if the neighbour had been primed, was ready & waiting, phone to hand for just such an occasion with the promise of payment if they managed to get something (anything?)

Granny23, what abuse snd violence?

Seems I unlike you, am not one of the vast majority of people

I have ‘had too much to drink’

I have ‘overreacted ‘ late night a young man, drunk, knocked my front
door demanding to speak to my 16 year old daughter , no telephone so I opened the front door clutching a bread knife.

I have ‘lost the plot’ if it mean losing my temper and tipping
porridge oats over the kitchen floor , not an accident.

Speak for yourself Lemongrove I, and I'm sure many others on Grandsnet have never indulged in the kind of 'ding-dong' you cite, nor the kind of row that can be heard next door or in the street. Similarly, I cannot believe that many grandsnetters have manhandled anyone, man women or child (not even a traffic warden) as Field did, yet many are defending him, even though he, himself, has admitted he was out of order.

Most people do not cheat on their wives, have secret affairs, children they try to keep secret etc.

Most people are not trying to become PM. We have the right to expect our PM to behave better, not much worse, than the average voter.

I heard one (male) supporter on the radio that they didn’t care about his numerous affairs as it showed he had “ lead in his pencil”. Horrible thought.

I wonder how much he’s paid his ex wives and mistresses to keep quiet- the old style Sunday papers ( eg News of The World) would have a field day. I think he took one to court to keep quiet about a child he’d fathered.

Granny23 I agree with you.

Day6 Most couples row. There is nothing unusual in this
MrA and I don’t row. We sometimes disagree about things and we calmly discuss things and reach a compromise. That may seem boring to some people, but that’s how I am.
Even when we were much younger and got upset about things, we never shouted or resorted to physical violence.

I'm also with Granny23 - not saying other half and I never row, but we've never resorted to screaming matches or physical violence. How many victims of domestic violence have suffered because neighbours couldn't be bothered to pick up the phone when they heard screaming etc - or just preferred to turn a blind eye?

Why physical violence ? There was no physical violence in
row last night. I don’t like Johnson but not fair to bring physical violence into it.

Sounded to me like he spilt the wine on her expensive sofa, she raged at him, he put his arm round her and said something like "Aww, come on now" and she said "get off me!".

We've all been there.

Granny23 there has been no reporting of physical violence, you speak of it, would you post a link or share how
you know there was physical violence involved in the reported row last night ?

Certain names spring to mind- Lloyd George, Jack Kennedy and others????

MrA and I don’t row. We sometimes disagree about things and we calmly discuss things and reach a compromise.

Well, good for you Janeainsworth. Aren't you lucky?

I am one of the Gransnetters who has had to face abuse, noise, threats etc, from my husband, and my neighbours were aware as he had no shame. I did.

Don't imagine your relationship is the same as others. Many couples row and make up. I'd imagine that is the norm.

Yeah! Wonder if anyone is asking Boris about the making up that went on after the row!

Unless he'd had too much red wine of course.