Any ‘woke’ Christmas presents then? ?

Blimey I m travelling in a parcelled universe what the heck is ‘op faced’ ?

Oh god I give up. I meant ‘po-faced’. Jeez.
I think my NY resolution ought to be ‘press preview’ first‼️

The point of "woke" is it's people who follow trendy causes, but if their views are challenged or questioned they cannot explain or defend them, and instead just tell anyone who disagree with them to go away and "get woke"

"Woke" is not a compliment. It means that type of person. It does not mean eco aware. In fact it can mean the opposite as "woke" people jump on board causes which they may not understand or which may be contradictory

You sound like you like your DD. If you go around calling her woke people will assume you dislike her!

That was exasperation to me BlueBelle sorry it could read back as snippy with you. It wasn’t.

I might go for a lie down on my nylon sheets (joke).

I think 'woke' went into ironic only use, almost as soon as it was invented.

"Get woke" was never used Ironically.

"Woke" to describe people who say "get woke" is!

Ah thank you notanan I’ve been educated.

I’m sorry I put the word into my title now!

Seems I should have put ‘any environmentally aware Christmas presents then?’ At least it would fulfill the character numbers GNHQ like for a title now hehe!

Makes more sense. I’m giving up trying to keep up with trendy words now!

Hey BlueBelle was your post altered too? parcelled universe! Did you mean parallel?

Love it!
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Oh for effs sake ( that’s not meant for you Urmston but my bloody fingers) ...yes I did mean parallel which just this second changed into parcelled some blooming keyboard goblins around to day I think I m going back to bed

Ah thank you notanan I’ve been educated.

So does that mean you are now woke in the ways of wokeness?

I have never heard the expression before but I regard myself as extremely environmentally friendly if that is the same thing!!

Well I m not woke or asleep I m hovering in the middle trying my best to be woke but failing miserably sometimes

I think this thread has gone rather "off piste" now!
Maybe we need to start again Urmstongran
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I like threads that ‘morph’! It’s like a conversation where one input changes it for a while then it loops back round. Or not!
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Has Meghan written a book pointing out the error of our ways?!

I guess that would qualify as a ‘woke’ present!!?

Oh yes I would certainly consider that a "woke" gift ? (and as useful as a chocolate teapot!)

I think I knew what was meant by the subject. There ain't much else it could mean? am I right.

Urmston, I always press preview or my posts would be completely unintelligible/undecipherable.

I meant to agree with someone; DD wrapped prezzies in brown paper whereas I used saved paper from years gone by. Who was more woke?

One of my most successful presents was a book she had as a child wrapped for her DD. She even said "I used to love this book!" I said I found it in the attic....

Brilliant Grammaretto! Just brilliant.

You have to be careful though gramatetto when two of my grandkids came to live near me I hunted lots of my old books out from ‘the attic’ I think it was Toytown tales or some such title by Enid Blyton... as I read it, it had mother smoking in the kitchen, then she slapped teddy on the leg for getting in the way and of course there was little black Samxx in there as well
I was changing so much as I was reading it to them that I may as well have written a new story

I understand 'woke' to mean up to the minute in being very demonstrative in showing how green and environmental or political correct you are.

In this case, not buying 'stuff' but giving experiences. However, quite often, as in this case, the environemental cost of getting to the experience and back etc exceeds that of giving stuff.

To be truly 'woke' the experience should have been an experience within walking distance. We get round this stuff/experience dichotomy by asking people to provide a list of things they would like to receive at Christmas a couple of months in advance. Sometimes where we know that person well, we will buy somewthing they haven't asked for. Which is how I received two books this year that I hadn't asked for because I did not know they existed but I am delighted to receive them and I am well through one at the moment. Since both are extensively illustrated and one is quite old, not something to download on Kindle.

All my presents this year were things I was delighted to receive, none will be disposed off, all will be used and this applied to everyone.

We get round this stuff/experience dichotomy by asking people to provide a list of things they would like to receive at Christmas a couple of months in advance

Or you could just reel the whole thing in, cut back, sit back and let it go.

I think it's sometimes just that people want to gift things that they are comfortable about buying. I would struggle to buy plastic toys nowadays, although my own children had lots of Fisher Price things that will now probably clog up landfill somewhere for 500 years or so.

I don't think I'm particularly 'woke', but then I always saw 'politically correct' as a sneering term for 'politeness', so I may not be the best one to judge .

I agree about the travel to 'experiences', though. They can turn a thoughtful present into an expensive inconvenience if the sender isn't careful. I've been lucky this year, though. I got some vouchers for my hairdresser and book tokens, which will come in really handy, as I am taking creative writing course. The only 'experience' gift I got that was a bit off the mark is an afternoon tea voucher for a (lovely) local place that is off the beaten track, and as I don't drive I will have to take my diabetic husband, who won't be able to eat the cakes.

That's not what Woke means Monica. It means wanting to be in an echo chamber and shutting off anyone who doesnt share your political view with dismissive phrases like "get woke"

Its not interchangable with "green" or "eco" that's not really what it means although there may be some crossover as "woke" = millitant left, but with the addition of being unable to debate/defend their views.

Actually MOnica the travelling to and from the experience by car did cross my mind too! This eco thingy is harder than it looks. With 2 young grandchildren in tow, around here we could erm ...walk to the park .... ! Not really a special experience.
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notanan I think it means being very politically correct and advertising it, although I do not think this is what Urmstonegran's daughter was doing as she did not make a song and dance about her decision.

But among those who like to think they are politically 'woke' waving green credentials, supporting ER is among the things they like to make a big display about.

This of course has got nothing to do those who are quietly but persistently doing their best to reduce their environemental footprint, or the scientists and others researching the issue and/or actually doing something about it.

People who describe themselves as 'woke' are generally merely virtue-signallers

Agree with most of that except that people don't identify themselves as "woke"
Thats not the correct context.

People may say of themselves that they "got woke" and that other people need to "get woke".

Someone else who is rolling their eyes at them would then describe them as "woke"