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You never hear of a bossy boy

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Lucca Mon 23-Nov-20 18:52:01

My DGD does like to be in charge, she really enjoys “teaching” friends or her brother (or her granny!) how to do things.
Sometimes she overdoes it and we’ve had a tendency to say “don’t be so bossy”. However we were talking about this and realised “bossy” is only applied to girls . Do you agree ?

ElaineI Mon 23-Nov-20 22:52:02

But has it been passed by Carrie NanaDH - apparently said by men to be a bossy woman?
Sorry but couldn't resist.

welbeck Tue 24-Nov-20 00:34:49

where does a little boy get those notions about a girl not to play with cars.
and are they not challenged at nursery.

PaperMonster Tue 24-Nov-20 05:30:48

Lucca - she might called bossy but she’s long since known to correct people! Although to be fair, this mostly happened before she started school and mostly by older people. I found people stoped saying stuff like that once she started school. Her Dad says it now and again but we both correct him.

Lucca Tue 24-Nov-20 06:27:27

Who?

Lucca Tue 24-Nov-20 06:29:54

Ignore that. I’ve looked back and found your post.

sodapop Tue 24-Nov-20 08:31:38

Hadn't really thought about this before but its definitely true. Girls are bossy whilst boys are confident and display leadership skills.
One of my school reports said "Sodapop is a born leader, unfortunately she leads her class in the wrong direction". Wish I could say I had improved smile

travelsafar Tue 24-Nov-20 09:09:18

sodapop Your post made me chuckle.smile

Lucca Tue 24-Nov-20 09:19:16

sodapop

Hadn't really thought about this before but its definitely true. Girls are bossy whilst boys are confident and display leadership skills.
One of my school reports said "Sodapop is a born leader, unfortunately she leads her class in the wrong direction". Wish I could say I had improved smile

Oh those school reports eh. My first one ever said “an intelligent child with a mind of her own “. And my last one talked about my “complete lack of interest in the subject”. ( a subject I later went on to teach....)
Sorry I digress

Mooney59 Tue 24-Nov-20 09:35:01

Women are/were their own worst enemies. Ever read Mrs Beaton etc about making sure the kids are ready for bed and you’re looking good for when hubby comes home. Been subservient for thousands of years so going to be a long time before words are unallocated from one gender to the other. But frighteningly there are now more than 10 genders!!!!

Sarahmob Tue 24-Nov-20 10:10:42

My three year old DGS is extremely bossy, and we call it out as being bossy. Trying to encourage him to listen to other’s ideas and take others points of view into account.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:14:24

Indeed Lucca. Men are meant to be natural leaders while quiet little women are meant to 'know their place' and do as they're told. Not any more, matey. We've have female prime ministers, after all.

Kryptonite Tue 24-Nov-20 10:14:32

She has good leadership skills. Not bossy.

EliseC465 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:15:25

Blossoming

Ah, I think the title confused me! Yes, there is very muca double standard.

I once heard a guy at work describe me as ‘scary’. I told him he was easily frightened. Giving instructions and seeing they were carried out was part of my job.

Yeah, I’ve had the ‘scary’ thing as well. Apparently I have a look!

Probably developed from years of teaching 16-18 year olds.

trisher Tue 24-Nov-20 10:23:58

My GD has been organising everyone since she first learned to talk. I'm watching with interest to see if she carries on as she gets older, but with a consultant for a mum and 2 teachers for grandmothers I strongly suspect she will.
My GS is much more devious and manipulative, getting what he wants with various strategies. It's fascinating watching her trying to organise him. He only cooperates when he feels like it.
I think I have called boys "bossy" but not very often. More as a single admonishment "Don't be so bossy" than a general description.

4allweknow Tue 24-Nov-20 10:27:34

I have a bossy 10 year told GS. Tries to order everyone aniut, adults and children alike. I often wonder if he is on the autistic spectrum with his apparent need for control.

Elegran Tue 24-Nov-20 10:42:55

When a boy does the same bossing around as a girl, it is either called leadership or bullying.

Paperbackwriter Tue 24-Nov-20 10:44:55

"Feisty" is another word that only seems to be applied to girls, isn't it? I have also never heard of boys being referred to as "chatterboxes". I hate that word - it implies girls should stay quiet. I may be wrong there but it's the impression I got when I myself was little and the word was used by various relatives of mine. It stung!

Aepgirl Tue 24-Nov-20 10:46:34

Isn’t that strange particularly as in the past ‘the boss’ was inevitably a man. So what can we call ‘bossy’ boys?

Pantglas2 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:48:04

When I asked my dad not so very long ago whether he thought I was bossy, he paused, and said ‘well, um, you’re very......organised!’

DH laughed and so did my Son in law but my DD agrees with me that being good at managing stuff, and saying so, is not bossiness as long as you listen to other opinions. Someone has to make final decisions otherwise nothing gets done.

TerriBull Tue 24-Nov-20 11:18:32

Summerlove

TerriBull

No Alegrias I don't, she can still give as good as she gets and believe me she does have the upper hand in that relationship being the eldest. I just remember her as quite bolshie when she was under 5, she's not like that anymore, or not with us at least. He, my grandson is a lovely little boy and is always happy to read to me when I ask and play other games such as "Jenga" or "Cat Bingo" but has set idea along the lines of who plays with traditional male toys.

I'm going back well over 25 years as to the "kindergarten Valykeries" the woman who ran that nursery was quite unorthodox but the children were very happy with her.

I’m sorry Terri, but with these descriptions it jumps off the page how you feel about assertive girls, and seem to prefer boys. It’s one thing to prefer boys, but I think it was quite unkind to take the wind out of the sails of those little girls!

I'm sorry too summerlove, because what jumps off the page to me from your comment is a presumptuous wrong and strong opinionated poster.

You know nothing about me, I have two boys, I never said I preferred boys, you've taken it upon yourself to make that judgement based on a brief description of happenings at a playgroup nearly 30 years ago shock At the time there were a handful of little girls, probably nearer 5 than 4 who took it upon themselves to order a lot of the younger children around. My son was only 2ish at the time and I saw no reason why he should be intimidated by "bossy" older children, who in that instance were girls, they could just have well been boys and yes "bossy" is a term I personally would apply to a boy. To pad that backdrop out more, and specifically in relation to your judgey comment, the Vicar's wife who ran the set up often told them, to stop interfering with the younger ones. Anyway I imagine said girls are CEOs of various multi nationals by now!

As for the "Kindergarten Valykeries" if you are taking that comment into account in your assertion of my favouring boys, it wasn't one coined by me but by the woman who ran the place. At the time I didn't know who or what Vaykeries were, I thought they existed only in Wagner Operas hmm

As for my own granddaugher, who I absolutely adore and was thrilled to bits when I found out she was a girl. She was up to school quite "bossy" but in an amusing way, insomuch aged about 3 she would tell us which direction to take when we were out in the car, where to park etc. etc. and then "told us off" for not following her instructions, her favourite word was "No" if we deviated from any of her edicts, she would start the next sentence with "I SAID" It made us laugh, it still does and when I relate such incidents back to her she begs me to tell her what else she said when she was little as we both end up laughing about what she was like. My grandson who I love and adore equally, does have his little idiosyncrasies, I do jokingly argue with such assertions, which incidentally I don't shape, such as girls playing with cars and trains, but as I don't want to get down on the floor particularly, I let him get on with it! When my grandchildren are with me I want them to enjoy themselves not argue the toss about who plays with what hmm

Newatthis Tue 24-Nov-20 11:24:20

Over 100 years since we had developed….Maybe this is why I still lagging behind and the glass ceiling is still very firmly in place.

Newatthis Tue 24-Nov-20 11:24:51

The vote (not developed!!!)

Nannan2 Tue 24-Nov-20 11:27:51

No ive had bossy boys in the family also.

Milorni3 Tue 24-Nov-20 11:33:06

I was always told I was bossy growing up, really pees me off. In a business/work environment men are encouraged to be "assertive" yet females are put down and called bossy. Makes me cross hmm

sf101 Tue 24-Nov-20 11:35:04

Many years ago I went to a conscientious awareness course. One exercise we did was to divide a large sheet of paper and list on one side female derogatory names and on the other male derogatory names.
I'll start you off - slag, slapper, cow, mare , bitch etc
Try it for yourself it is very enlightening!