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nanna8 Fri 14-May-21 13:29:41

Harry Windsor’s latest description of his life at the palace going on about genetic pain and suffering. Oh my, he really rubs it in. How difficult for his father and brother to have to cope with public comments like that. Why couldn’t he just say it privately if that is what he feels?

Madgran77 Fri 14-May-21 19:55:58

His problem is that William, Catherine and 3 delightful children are highlighting brilliantly how to go through a difficult upbringing/childhood experience, grow up, marry after very careful consideration, have 3 children, find a balance between public life/private life, create an appropriate challenge when needed (topless photos of Kate), but also work with the press and provide enough insight for the public to enjoy (delightful photos of family) and basically make it work for all! Harry choosing to go to America with his family ..OK, but it seems so unfair to then trash his family, talk on behalf of his father and brother about how they feel and generally wash the family linen in public, all in the name of "withdrawing from the Royal role!" and "being self supporting!" Self support without trashing family and speaking for others fine...but what is happening just doesn't seem right!!

Peasblossom Fri 14-May-21 19:56:03

Well I’m sure they’ll discover (like we all did) that parenting isn’t as easy as think, once your child develops a personality and ideas if it’s own?

But if the proof of the pudding is in the eating Id say the Queen hasn’t done so badly as a mother. Her four children have stayed close, loyal and supportive of her. Their grief for their father appeared genuine. The majority of her in-laws speak of her with affection. Most of her grandchildren and their children consider themselves part of a close family and have created families of their own.

If there was such a toxic cycle of pain, such as Harry describes, I think things would look very different.

Smileless2012 Fri 14-May-21 20:04:00

Great posts Madgran and Peasblossom. Harry would do better to use his experiences to help others as he claims to be doing, rather than using them to publicly trash and humiliate his family.

He may well discover in the not too distant future that the only person he's ultimately trashed and humiliated is himself.

Alegrias1 Fri 14-May-21 20:12:02

Ooohhh, this one was incognito.

Smileless2012 Fri 14-May-21 20:14:40

confused

grandmajet Fri 14-May-21 20:46:28

I’ve always felt sorry for him and tried to excuse his outbursts against his family, but this time he’s just been completely horrible. I wondered if it was just the press exaggerating it, then I heard the recording of what he actually said. What a self centred, whining, over privileged little brat.

Atqui Fri 14-May-21 20:50:14

At least Charles didn’t send him to Gordonstoun. Perhaps he’d rather have gone to the local comp. so that his father did not perpetuate the cycle of pain. I can’t see that Harrys childhood was anything like his fathers. As most people have said , if he craves anonymity and privacy, stop doing public interviews .

Greeneyedgirl Fri 14-May-21 20:55:48

He’s probably been having counselling and feels like letting it all hang out. grin

3nanny6 Fri 14-May-21 21:06:01

No Atqui his father did not send him to Gordonstoun. On the other hand he was packed off to Eton College where William was already studying. Whilst being a prestigious educational facility it is never the less nothing more than a place to keep all the upper class little darlings away from home so any of the parents can have dinner parties and jet off here and there as and when. A friend of mine worked at Eton College and she said that many of the boys were unhappy and would rather have been educated and lived at home.
As for the local comprehensive or acadamy which is what the local schools are called these days those posh lads would never be able to hold their own in places like those.

Atqui Fri 14-May-21 21:25:34

I wonder what kind of educational establishment Harry will choose for Archie?

Atqui Fri 14-May-21 21:28:45

If Harry’s parents wanted the freedom to go to dinner parties and holidays abroad, I’m sure they could have found alternative arrangements to boarding at atop,public school

Atqui Fri 14-May-21 21:32:40

My point was that Charles apparently hated Gordonstoun, and so he didn’t send his children there.

3nanny6 Fri 14-May-21 21:34:01

I expect it will be something prestigious and private.
At the end of the day Harry is still of Royal blood and Archie also has his connections to the Royal family whether people like it or not. Archie will need to have bodyguards/protection
and will not lead a life in total freedom.

Atqui Fri 14-May-21 21:35:46

But what do we mere mortals know about how Charles actually brought up,his children, except that it was a ‘ broken home’ . Fleeing to California cannot stop that happening if he and Meghan s marriage doesn’t work out.

JenniferEccles Fri 14-May-21 22:31:42

Just when I thought Harry couldn’t sink any lower, I clearly underestimated the lengths he’s prepared to go to cause further hurt for his family.

As if the Winfrey interview wasn’t bad enough, here he is back again firing more grenades at his family.

His behaviour is utterly shameful, spurred on I suspect by his wife, who of course has form for cutting herself off from her own family.

He didn’t spout all this victimhood nonsense before she came on the scene, did he ?

Nanna58 Fri 14-May-21 22:42:49

Just when I think there can’t possibly be a lower level of drivel to come from Harry.....he surpasses himself!!!!

Smileless2012 Sat 15-May-21 11:45:49

He never fails to disappoint lately does he.

Atqui Sat 15-May-21 12:25:12

Let’s not read any more of his whining and leave him to struggle with his very modest lifestyle now that his father has stopped his allowance.

theworriedwell Sat 15-May-21 13:04:11

Greeneyedgirl

I get your point Smileless but I don’t think it’s a bad thing to make people aware of emotional damage in childhood, and its self perpetuating nature, and that it is possible to prevent it continuing. He reaches a huge audience by his celebrity status.

He could bring it to the attention of that audience without talking about his father and grandparents. He could talk about what he wants to do in a positive way, no need for the rest of it. No parent gets it right all the time, he won't either.

Funny how his mother gets no blame or her parents who were certainly no example of how to parent, mother running off then father not letting children see her and her mother (Diana's grandmother) supporting her SIL not her daughter. How about the genetic suffering the Spencers passed on to him?

theworriedwell Sat 15-May-21 13:07:48

3nanny6

No Atqui his father did not send him to Gordonstoun. On the other hand he was packed off to Eton College where William was already studying. Whilst being a prestigious educational facility it is never the less nothing more than a place to keep all the upper class little darlings away from home so any of the parents can have dinner parties and jet off here and there as and when. A friend of mine worked at Eton College and she said that many of the boys were unhappy and would rather have been educated and lived at home.
As for the local comprehensive or acadamy which is what the local schools are called these days those posh lads would never be able to hold their own in places like those.

I think it was Diana's family that had the connection with Eton (her brother certainly went there) don't remember any royals going there before William. Maybe it was his mother who sent him there not his father?

eazybee Sat 15-May-21 13:17:07

Princes William and Harry had a very similar childhood and upbringing. They are both supporting mental health awareness in whatever form.
The difference I notice is that in public appearances the focus on Prince William is of him listening to people talking about their problems; with Harry the focus is all on his problems.
I find Harry's recent behaviour contemptible and also contemptuous, of other people, but I am beginning to think he really has developing mental problems and his discussing them in public is not going to help anyone, least of all himself.
Meghan has no idea of what she has unleashed.

Chestnut Sat 15-May-21 18:02:48

I hope I'm still here in 10 years to see how this has all panned out. Where will they all be then? Only time will tell.

Witzend Sat 15-May-21 19:42:22

IMO it’s high time he stopped whining.

Blossoming Sat 15-May-21 22:36:58

Gotta love Janey Godley grin.

youtu.be/aZhyFwLt9gY

Aveline Sat 15-May-21 22:43:10

Karma will bite Harry in the bum. Just wait till Archie starts whining about how Harry wrenched him away from the country of his birth and his extended family to the superficial life of Tinseltown.