Not dipping into Royal Purse

I think the whole institution has passed its sell by date, when we have homeless starving people in the country and one family given untold riches its time to think again. For those who say the monarchy bring tourists, France seems to manage ok. I feel sorry for the Queen, she's had a crap life in a gilded cage and had to endure being shot at too. She has been amazingly professional though

Are there no homeless people in France ?

Well seeing as you ask...

Number of homeless people per 10,000 in France, 21

Number of homeless people per 10,000 in the UK, 46

Twice as many plus a bit more in this country.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homeless_population

But the dutch princess wont go starving or be homeless just by declining her allowance.
money breeds money in the case of royals

I guess Andy still gets his "Pizza Express" allowance off his mum.

They also employ a lot of people and most of them support charities but anonymously. Stop dissing the Royal family have a go at the people who literally do nothing and expect to get paid for it.

This is a democracy MaggsMcG, and a free country, we can diss who we like.

Especially when they are being shown up by an eighteen year old girl.

MaggsMcG

They also employ a lot of people and most of them support charities but anonymously. Stop dissing the Royal family have a go at the people who literally do nothing and expect to get paid for it.

Giving Evidence an independent report found charities do not benefit from royal patronage RF do not visit over 70% of charities only those they set up themselves and that they live near to. RF don't not work hard they hardly work at all. And get paid a fortune. And still RF spend public money freely every day.

"The monarchy is wrong in principle, wrong in practice and it's bad for British politics."

Newatthis

Perhaps our minor Royals and our two young princesses (Eugene and Beatrice for example) could take a page or two out of this young princesses's book.

abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/dutch-princess-accept-payment-turns-18-78222140

The Dutch princess is pursuing her own plans and not undertaking royal duties whilst she is studying and taking a gap year, then university.

I don't think any of our Royal Family are paid taxpayers' money for doing nothing either.
Eugenie and Beatrice don't carry out Royal duties therefore receive nothing.

Grany again I ask, where in Wales do the royal family live,
you keep saying they only visit charities they live close to, if they do not live in Wales you are posting an untruth, how can
the other claims you make be taken as truth

Re Amalia: Amalia is of course the Crown Princess, so her constitutional position is equal to that of Prince Charles, not Princesses Beatrix and Eugenie.

The King and Queen have been keen for their girls to have as grounded an upbringing as possible, and I think Amalia’s decision and her letter do her great credit. I think it will also allow her to have a more normal - albeit still greatly privileged- young adulthood at university.

Queen Maxima herself is not from a titled family, and King Willem-Alexander is well known for flying KLM flights for decades as a (fully qualified obviously!) commercial pilot under an assumed name. The Dutch Royal Family are popular for their ‘common touch’.

Annie
Charles
A huge number of engagements are held at home – Clarence House in London, Highgrove in Gloucestershire or Balmoral in Scotland. A lot of those not done at home are still held within a fairly short distance of those three locations. And don’t forget, he doesn’t do full days or weeks of work. These 521 hours at home or nearby are spread across the year, leaving him with weeks and months of leisure time and time to pursue his own interests. Being flown in helicopter their favourite method of transport so not much effort on RF part

Alegrias1

*** False dichotomy warning *

I'd quite like them to live off their many billions without wanting any more.....

And to have the self awareness of that Dutch Princess who realised that she didn't need that money and has probably given the Dutch Royal Family a boost in the ratings.

Yes, I would too. Sadly, I think if the young royals here had done the same, it wouldn’t have given the RF here a boost except to those who support the idea of the RF. So many people would still not be happy.

^ And don’t forget, he doesn’t do full days or weeks of work. These 521 hours at home or nearby are spread across the year, leaving him with weeks and months of leisure time and time to pursue his own interests^
Goodness me, still doing all that work at age 72!
As well as all the work he does behind the scenes - it's not just visits

I'd quite like them to live off their many billions without wanting any more.....

So many just don't get it, do they.

The money they receive from the taxpayer is for the job they do and to pay for the staff they have to employ in order for the affairs of state to run smoothly.
You could argue, of course, that if they are requested to be a patron of a charity and visit then the charities should fund that rather than the visits be taxpayer funded.

That would be rather mean.

We don't fund their private lives.

Callistemon

^ And don’t forget, he doesn’t do full days or weeks of work. These 521 hours at home or nearby are spread across the year, leaving him with weeks and months of leisure time and time to pursue his own interests^
Goodness me, still doing all that work at age 72!
As well as all the work he does behind the scenes - it's not just visits

It's not work RF don't work hard they hardly work at all.

Callistemon

^I'd quite like them to live off their many billions without wanting any more.....^

So many just don't get it, do they.

The money they receive from the taxpayer is for the job they do and to pay for the staff they have to employ in order for the affairs of state to run smoothly.
You could argue, of course, that if they are requested to be a patron of a charity and visit then the charities should fund that rather than the visits be taxpayer funded.

That would be rather mean.

We don't fund their private lives.

They get far too much money more than they need.

What affairs of State? They don't run government though do interfere in politics it's criminal

In public office for private gain and allowed to get away with this nothing ever said.

Callistemon

^I'd quite like them to live off their many billions without wanting any more.....^

So many just don't get it, do they.

The money they receive from the taxpayer is for the job they do and to pay for the staff they have to employ in order for the affairs of state to run smoothly.
You could argue, of course, that if they are requested to be a patron of a charity and visit then the charities should fund that rather than the visits be taxpayer funded.

That would be rather mean.

We don't fund their private lives.

Oh, I get it fine.

I'm not talking about the allowances they get for doing their jobs. That's a lot of money and I do think we could get a better deal with an alternative system but that's not what we are talking about.

We are talking about one of the country's richest families getting preferential treatment with respect to their tax affairs, and we're expected to be grateful because they have chosen to pay taxes. It's about a family who think its perfectly fine to own the seabed. And all the swans in the country, I believe. Its about a family who personally own a huge fortune, but we're not really allowed to know how much, but we are expected to look up to them and think they are a great example for our times.

As for the York Princesses, they did get public funds when they were at University, and we paid for their security as well. And Charles got stick because he "cut them off".

This idea that they have in some way lost out and/or are being nice to us by agreeing to be paid a certain amount is completely a red herring. The reason they do so is for the tax breaks they benefit from. The income tax they don't pay became such a subject of interest and they considered it such a threat to their position that they offered a voluntary contribution, but capital gains tax and inheritance tax would have cut their fortune by millions. The Queen mum left her fortune to the Queen for exacly that reason. The state would have benefitted from about £30million if inheritance tax had applied, but it didn't. The Duchy of Lancaster operates as a business without the problem of capital gains tax. It's all a bit of a mystery because papers about the reality are hardly ever made public. This is interesting www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/a34242784/queen-elizabeth-royal-family-tax-breaks/

Grany where do the royal family live in Wales ? Not stay when they visit, but as you keep repeating ‘ they live’ ?

It did occur to me that the RF were possibly very glad to see the back of Meghan and to seperate their financial affairs. They wouldn't have wanted the IRS digging into the family finances, as they are entitled to do with any US citizens.

Callistemon

^ And don’t forget, he doesn’t do full days or weeks of work. These 521 hours at home or nearby are spread across the year, leaving him with weeks and months of leisure time and time to pursue his own interests^
Goodness me, still doing all that work at age 72!
As well as all the work he does behind the scenes - it's not just visits

I know pensioners who are working far longer than 10 hours a week. Some have to work to make ends meet which is absolutely disgraceful in a country as rich as ours. Others work because they want to. Other work in charity shops and other voluntary agencies. Charles isn't the only pensioner who works but lets be honest shaking hands and smiling doesn't require the same effort as stacking shelves in Sainburys.

Unny you should pick that as a comparison because I've stacked shelves in Sainsbury's vegansrock ? and I'd rather do that than what Charles does.

Funny not Unny
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Senior members of the Royal Family who carry out royal duties get something from the Sovereign Grant. Nobody else gets a penny - and all the money from the Crown Estates goes into government coffers, the Royal Family only get a small amount back.