Sick people in shops

I was thinking exactly the same.

What a kind and considerate post Maddyone

LOUISA I’m very sorry to hear you’ve had cancer and I hope your treatment has left you well. The problem that occurred was that you wrote a rather provocative post claiming to have seen your daughter and granddaughter on most days throughout lockdown, but failing to give the important information that you were suffering from cancer at the time, which is obviously a mitigating circumstance. By not including that information at first you appeared to be supportive of rule breakers when most of us were following every rule. Smileless is correct, I read your rather belligerent answer to my post and without reading the rest of the thread, I responded. I shouldn’t have done that without reading the rest of the thread. I don’t know what your deleted post said as I’ve only come back to this thread this morning, but clearly it fell foul of guidelines.
I’m sorry you’ve been so ill. I hope you’re feeling better now.

So unbelievable how unpleasant this post has gone in places. Many of us have multiple problems physically and now mentally but don’t feel the need to air our problems , I usually read some of the daily ‘news’ ,and rarely contribute but I now feelI don’t want to be a part of these ‘discussions’ any more.
I offer sympathy to those suffering in any way.

I have a cough. I have asthma and a hiatus hernia and also oesophagus issues, all of which can, & do, cause coughing!
I also have bad anxiety issues which cause more anxiety issues if I wear anything over my face, or tightish tops around my neck, but I do cover my mouth as much as possible when I cough!!
BFF has COPD & asthma, he also coughs!

GROWSTUFF So what 'rules' do you think were broken? If you are referring to me...which i assume you are?

growstuff

It's not selfish to want to "get back to normal" (who doesn't?) but it's not going to happen any time soon. Pretending the virus has gone won't make it disappear.

Of course its not gone...who's pretending??‍♀️.... it will be here for ever.
but the risks are reduced now with vaccinations so most people have resumed normal life .....if you choose not to thats ok too.... but it doesn't make me irresponsible and I think you were very wrong to accuse me of that without any knowledgeof circumstances... very very wrong

Nobody tells the virus that some people are exempt. Fortunately, if the majority comply, there will be fewer opportunities for infection.

Nanna58

Reading some of the posts on this thread I think one of the worst aspects of COVID is how it has made people so fearful and judgemental of each other. Quick to point the finger at ‘rule breakers’ without knowing circumstances, rushing out of shops despite being triple jabbed and masked up, and thinking any poor soul with a cough is ‘Typhoid Mary’ - we need to let go a little now.

"Rule breaking" is rule breaking whatever the reason. In a handful of cases, it was unavoidable, but in may cases the excuses were downright pathetic.

It's not selfish to want to "get back to normal" (who doesn't?) but it's not going to happen any time soon. Pretending the virus has gone won't make it disappear.

That should read...I WONT apologise for that !

Smileless2012

maddyone you appear to have missed LOUISA'S post @ 8.33 this morning. That must have been a very difficult and frightening time LOUISA .

For you too, and your DH Marydoll .

Thank you Smileless
I didn't post on here for sympathy although I appreciate your comment....but I really don't think its selfish for people to want to get back to normal.....I completely get that, regardless of my own vulnerability....I don't wear masks ...if i had symptoms ofcovid i wouldn't go out...that is my choice and I always respect the choices of others....I work with vulnerable families where there are DV, abuse, alcohol / drugs misses issues....I needto build relationships with these families and mask wearing is not conducive to this....its far easier to engage with young children without mask...and yet I have posters on here who appear to think that because I am an NHS nurse that I am irresponsible for not wearing a mask anymore ( as per my trusts protocol)and enjoying the freedom that brings me....I apologise for that...anyway I've had a lovely day out with my 3 little GDs and I won't let these negative posts today spoil my day

Reading some of the posts on this thread I think one of the worst aspects of COVID is how it has made people so fearful and judgemental of each other. Quick to point the finger at ‘rule breakers’ without knowing circumstances, rushing out of shops despite being triple jabbed and masked up, and thinking any poor soul with a cough is ‘Typhoid Mary’ - we need to let go a little now.

I am not in the UK at the moment. Masks are mandatory on public transport here, no mask no entry.
Several people are coughing around me, I dont know their circumstances,so do not judge. I know as soon as I get of the bus, I will take the mask off as it can make me feel I'll.
I think we should always remember people can have hidden disabilities and a side effect is coughing.

maddyone

LOUISA
I dare tell you because it’s a fact. You admit to seeing your daughter nearly every day in your house during the Covid lockdown. I dare tell you because you were breaking the law nearly every day. If you don’t like it I’m afraid it’s tough. You broke the law regularly. That is a fact by your own admission.

MY post to you got deleted which is quite ironic seeing as its your post which was the offensive one ?....anyway I hope if you are ever unlucky enough to have cancer 3 times that you will find people do not judge you for your decisions and make accusations about situations they know nothing about ... I don't bear grudges...life is too short...so I will move on

If you had seen me in the supermarket last week you would have run a mile! I was sneezing, snuffling and coughing with red, runny eyes. All caused by hayfever and no I won’t stay at home because of that.

maddyone you appear to have missed LOUISA'S post @ 8.33 this morning. That must have been a very difficult and frightening time LOUISA .

For you too, and your DH Marydoll .

Did anyone ask if he was OK ?

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk guidelines.

Marydoll

I understand the being alone bit. I had another heart attack during lockdown and they couldn't find a bed in a Covid free ward for me. I have never felt so lonely in my life.
DH waved me off in the ambulance and I never saw him until I got back home again. At least I got back home, thanks to the wonderful staff.

It's an emotive subject and for some, I think it is hard to understand and empathise, when they haven't experienced this kind of situation. It doesn't make them bad people.

That sounds like a really crappy time for you and your DH....at least I was only an inpatient for a few days .... they were hard days for many of us

LOUISA
I dare tell you because it’s a fact. You admit to seeing your daughter nearly every day in your house during the Covid lockdown. I dare tell you because you were breaking the law nearly every day. If you don’t like it I’m afraid it’s tough. You broke the law regularly. That is a fact by your own admission.

growstuff

What a load of rubbish!

The onus should not be on patients to request that they be kept safe in a clinical setting.

Believe me, I'm very much focussed on my own health, which is why it concerns me so much that anybody working in an NHS setting should be so irresponsible and "be loving" the "freedom" of not having to wear a mask and gaslighting anybody who disagrees with you.

Like I said I don't work with vulnerable people ....uts actually detrimental to my job role to be wearing a mask .....so we don't anymore ....and I do much much prefer it ..... does that make me a bad person?? I think not

I understand the being alone bit. I had another heart attack during lockdown and they couldn't find a bed in a Covid free ward for me. I have never felt so lonely in my life.
DH waved me off in the ambulance and I never saw him until I got back home again. At least I got back home, thanks to the wonderful staff.

It's an emotive subject and for some, I think it is hard to understand and empathise, when they haven't experienced this kind of situation. It doesn't make them bad people.

Marydoll

However, if I was receiving a home visit, by an NHS worker, I would be requesting that they wear a mask in my home, especially if they have been visiting other patients before me.
I cannot fathom out, why masks aren't worn, when dealing with vulnerable people.
I am severely immunocompromised and I expect to be able to trust those people, who are treating me.

Because I work in a community trust and the majority of people I see are less vulnerable than I am .....but if its a patients preference thats fine

I'm doing good now thank you...but they were very difficult days....every chemo session on my own....being given my diagnosis on my own.....being in hospital for surgery on my own....but it was exactly the same for many many others...so I put my big girl pants on and got on with it...my DD made meals...did washing...cleaning....picked up shopping and provided emotional strength...she was a godsend...... i don't know whats wrong with some....they just want to see the bad in people...

Me...I live and let live ?‍♀️