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“The Left's hysterical 'confusion' over No 10's plan is utterly transparent

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Glorybee Tue 12-May-20 07:04:48

This comment in the Telegraph is interesting-

“It’s finally happened. The partisan politics that was suspended at the outbreak of this crisis has returned in full force. Initially the opposition signalled, publicly at least, that it was going to be constructive and help the Government. The three devolved administrations of the United Kingdom moved in lockstep, and reciprocal praise and good will was abundant.

Shadow Chancellor Aneliese Dodds even took to the radio before the lockdown to promote the Government’s line of following SAGE, resisting pressure to close schools or confine people to their homes.

Over the weekend, however, that all changed. Starting with Welsh Labour and the Scottish Nationalist Party, politicians decided that now is the time to unilaterally end the effective ceasefire our politics had been suspended in for weeks, and go on the attack. No longer were there warm words for the Government emphasising the challenges they face, instead the green light was given for politicisation.

The Labour Party have now curiously clearly positioned themselves as the pro-lockdown party, seemingly ready to resist changes in messaging and shifts to any state of affairs that do not resemble house arrest. Ironically, Sir Keir Starmer was among the initial few voices to demand a route out of the lockdown in the first place. Now that the Government is doing exactly that, however, Labour’s mood music has shifted.

The political games were clear to see. Whatever Boris had said on Sunday evening, the Left wing parties were ready to spin it as uncaring, unscientific, incomprehensible, or a curious mix of all three. This became the moment that the lockdown divides truly became partisan.”.

“The same Labour MPs who pretended their 2019 Brexit policy was the most straightforward thing in the world to understand are now expressing faux outrage over government communications. Perhaps they genuinely feel that the concept of the rate of infection helping determine how much of the economy can open up is somehow wildly incomprehensible. Perhaps they are just going along with the crowd. Either way it is back to politics as usual.”

almostelderly Tue 12-May-20 14:20:34

As there appears to be dissension regarding the staggered opening of schools, I have learnt this from reading various articles furret, we are living in unprecedented times. I suspect that as the lockdown is eased, some things will be trial and error, and this is not a flippant observation. The Government appears to be observing other countries that are a few weeks ahead of the UK to monitor their progress. Reports indicating that terrible errors were initially made, and this is a fact, is not helpful in the current climate.

almostelderly Tue 12-May-20 14:21:48

The above has been posted in the incorrect section, sorry

Glorybee Tue 12-May-20 14:25:59

Maybee70 - I’ve seen acknowledgement on the political threads that mistakes have been made by the Tories, I’ve acknowledged that myself. This post is about the Labour Party doing an about turn whenever it thinks needs to in order to oppose the government, irrespective of what views it held in agreement beforehand.

Lucca Tue 12-May-20 14:29:58

Ladymuck. “Whatever Boris does or says, the Opposition will oppose. It's their raison d'etre.”

And if Boris was Keir don’t tell me the same thing would happen.
What happened to critical faculties ? Why do people think Boris can do no wrong ? I have never voted Conservative but that doesn’t stop me thinking that someone like Michael Heseltine has good qualities, and in fact although I seriously disliked her I reckon Maggie T would possibly have handled this Crisis better.

Joelsnan Tue 12-May-20 14:44:03

It’s interesting to see how partisan this crisis has become. Outrage being expressed as well as incompetence, ignorance even Murderers.
I was amazed whilst researching the other day to note an ONS statistic relating to the winter of 1999/00. It was a Labour Government in power at that time.
The excess deaths for that time was 48,000 from flu.
I can remember getting the flu then, it was horrible, however the whole of society carried on. I had about a week off work, but nothing changed, no government intervention, no carping from the opposition no MSM hysteria.
I cannot understand why the left, and particularly those ‘same old, same olds’ in the media that were militant Remainers feel now is the time to government and Brit bash relentlessly in what appears to be an attempt to destabilise the government. There may be axes still to grind, but for goodness sake, not now.

Furret Tue 12-May-20 14:54:24

I apologise if I was rude to a couple of people upthread. This is very stressful having close family working in the frontline of the NHS and now, if June 1st goes ahead, in education,

No excuse I know. But again sorry,

Ilovecheese Tue 12-May-20 15:07:29

I don't think it was you that was being rude Furret

SirChenjin Tue 12-May-20 15:15:00

No you weren’t Furret - you made your very valid points well and there was no rudeness on your part.

GrannyLaine Tue 12-May-20 17:17:26

With respect to others who clearly disagree, it is hurtful to accuse another of "having no concept or sympathy with the problems faced by essential workers" with no basis in fact nor of denigrating another as clearly "having no experience as a frontline worker" again with no basis. My original post was in response to a post about a question asked in the media, I attacked no one.
Furret whether your recent comment was to me or someone else, I appreciate the good manners. We are all under a great deal of stress and worry right now.