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Iamgran81 Wed 17-Jun-15 13:32:52

My grand son 12 school uniform has stayed the same after a no vote to a new uniform why would the school try and change to a new uniform ?

Uniform is school jumper
School polo shirt
School trousers black
And plain black footwear

New uniform not happend
School blazer
School tie
White shirt
School trousers
School shoes no plimsolls trainers or ugg boots

ninathenana Wed 17-Jun-15 13:40:57

The senior school my two attended has had three changes of uniform since they started there (long since left) the last being when it became an academy.
A local primary school in a notoriously poor area last year changed from uniform you could buy cheaply in the local supermarkets to blazers, shirts and ties and tartan skirts for girls. OTT for primary age I think.

hildajenniJ Wed 17-Jun-15 13:44:04

The primary school my DGC attend is to introduce tartan trousers for boys. My DD can't wait! I don't think the grandsons are too impressed.grin

Iamgran81 Wed 17-Jun-15 13:49:19

Very ott for primary glad my grandsons secondary school didn't go ahead with new uniform

Iamgran81 Wed 17-Jun-15 14:35:29

I think blazers are over the top i think it should be just jumper and polo shirt in my opinion am I wrong ?

Mishap Wed 17-Jun-15 14:46:20

It is a pity that the school governors do not think about parents' budgets when they make these decisions.

One of my nephews, who had so many problems (ADHD, on the autistic spectrum) was at a secondary school, where things were already not going very well, and then the school became an academy and introduced a new uniform. Everything went down hill after that - he would not wear it and was in constant trouble.

Now, clearly he was in the wrong for not wearing it, but it just became a focus for all his frustrations with a system that had failed him. And this is the problem with a strict uniform policy - it is a good way for troublesome children to express their dissatisfaction and becomes a big bone of contention when their educational progress and happiness are so much more important.

And I hate to see teenage girls dressed like "little men" - black trousers, shirt, tie, blazer - it's a bit weird. And the big-busted girls look dreadful. There is something slightly kinky about it - and it is unlikely to make them feel comfortable with themselves, which is so important at that difficult stage in their lives.

AshTree Wed 17-Jun-15 16:14:55

Mishap I do agree with you about the teenage girls dressing like little men. Our local secondary school is just along the road from us and at one time the girls were not allowed to wear trousers. They changed the uniform policy because so many of the girls were wearing their skirts obscenely short - not the parents' fault, as I know girls will roll their skirts over at the waist (I did it myself blush).
It is difficult, I imagine, to know what to do for the best. Girls dressed in trousers are probably deemed 'safer', but if they're going to wear black trousers, then the schools really should keep away from white shirts and ties which, let's face it, are really quite archaic now. Far better, in my opinion, would be a more feminine looking, open-necked shirt teamed with a coloured cardigan rather than a blazer.

Iamgran81 Wed 17-Jun-15 18:20:18

Also why do schools insist on blazers there a suit not a school uniform in my opinion get all schools back to basics like my grandsons

loopylou Wed 17-Jun-15 18:54:41

I sometimes think a more formal school uniform looks scruffier than an informal version. Local school children with the shirt/tie/blazer inevitably wear the ties half undone, shirts hanging out, blazers being trailed along the ground as soon as the children are off the school premises.
I think it's a lot of money for parents to fork out which means that the clothes are bought 'with room to grow' (which I used to do) which increases the dishevelled appearance.

School polo shirt/sweatshirt and trousers would be easier to wash and look tidier....or perhaps I'm old fashioned!

Anya Wed 17-Jun-15 19:11:06

Nothing wrong with girls wanting to wear trousers to school. I'm wear jeans most days. Why on earth should a girl have to look 'feminine'?

Ana Wed 17-Jun-15 19:13:51

No Loopy, if you were old-fashioned you'd be yearning for the old-style school uniform, blazers and all! grin

loopylou Wed 17-Jun-15 19:21:05

I meant from the perspective of tidiness.
My school uniform was awful -maroon blazer, yellow dress, straw boater and white gloves in summer, maroon skirt, jumper, white shirt, tie, velour hat and hideous maroon Mac, maroon gloves in winter. Trench coat macs weren't fashionable then.
All of course 'bought with room to grow' and at enormous expense from the school outfitter. My mac lasted me from first to fifth year, nearly ankle length at the beginning grin

Ana Wed 17-Jun-15 19:31:53

My velour hat and blazer were purple! And a purple and black striped tie...hmm

loopylou Wed 17-Jun-15 19:39:26

And maroon knickers, itchy divided skirts and white aertex shirts with your name embroidered on the front (shudder), that did nothing for us bustier girls hmm

I've never worn maroon or any shade of dark red since!

Mishap Wed 17-Jun-15 22:16:38

I am not suggesting that girls should be required to look feminine or that they should not wear trousers (I've forgotten when I last wore a skirt), but that they should not be forced into what is normally seen as a male civil servant's uniform - I have not seen any teenage girls wearing a collar and tie by choice!

Ana Wed 17-Jun-15 22:23:58

Well, perhaps that should go for boys as well then? Polo shirts for all...
(as in my GDS' primary school)

Anya Wed 17-Jun-15 22:25:32

I wore a shirt and tie to school (the collar came with the shirt!) and my DD wore a shirt and tie for school, albeit we both wore skirts. So long as children have the choice of wearing a skirt or trousers (whatever their sex) I don't see an issue with ties, though IMO a polo shirt can be both smart and practical.

Oddly enough GS1's school (primary) is changing from polo shirts to shirts and ties, which to me seems a retrograde step, but I'm sure we'll all learn to live with it hmm

Ana Wed 17-Jun-15 22:28:08

(That should have been DGDs' - I haven't got any grandsons!)

Iamgran81 Thu 18-Jun-15 09:25:17

Does everyone agree that blazers should not be school uniform and schools like my grandsons should stick or change to jumper and polo shirt hmm

Iamgran81 Thu 18-Jun-15 12:00:13

Or are blazers the way foward I hope not

Falconbird Thu 18-Jun-15 12:43:17

I loved my school uniform it was grey, pale blue and navy. The blazer was lovely, just like a smart jacket. I wish I was that slim again size 10/12 quite a lot larger now!!

Lots of teenagers go past my widow and they all look very smart in their uniforms and look proud.

Iamgran81 Thu 18-Jun-15 13:16:20

Proud of wearing a tie and blazer ? My grandson would hate wearing that jumper polo shirt school trousers and black lace up plimsolls is smart for him

grumppa Thu 18-Jun-15 13:28:24

DGS's pre-prep changed from jumpers to blazers as a result of parent pressure: proud mums didn't want their offspring to look like state school children. DD was unimpressed.

Iamgran81 Thu 18-Jun-15 13:49:02

Is that private school ? Agree they should have tie and blazer but not community school they should just be basic

Iamgran81 Thu 18-Jun-15 14:15:22

Jumper polo shirt school trousers and black plain footwear is formal enough