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Stop Childcare Ratios Increasing!

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GPLady Fri 06-May-22 06:15:42

I wonder if maybe people wouldn't mind sharing and signing this petition at all?

We lost our little man, Oliver Steeper, at 9 months old after a choking incident at his nursery.

A few days ago Boris Johnson proposed that a way to cut the cost of living would be to increase the number of children an adult is responsible for in early years settings. This cannot happen...there's other ways to decrease the cost of childcare, and to lump our childrens' safety in with a proposal to reduce MOT requirements is utterly shocking.

We need it to get to 100k signatures for the Government to consider it for debate. Please, if you feel able, sign and share.

Thank you so much everyone xxx

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/615623

dustyangel Mon 23-May-22 14:32:26

Signed and shared. So very sorry for your loss.

Cs783 Mon 23-May-22 07:54:01

Correction. Over 61,000 signatures now.

And a Monday morning ‘bump’.

rafichagran Mon 23-May-22 00:25:40

Signed. So sorry about your Grandson.

Doodledog Mon 23-May-22 00:25:33

I'm so sorry for your loss. There are no words.

I wish you all the best with the petition.

Grannmarie Mon 23-May-22 00:18:36

GPLady, I'm so sorry for your heartbreaking loss. What a beautiful wee boy, God bless him and comfort all who love him.??
Signed.

Party4 Sun 22-May-22 22:38:56

So sorry for your loss.
Signed There are people making big profits from childcare and the elderly care system.
The safety and welfare of the vulnerable needs close monitoring .

Cs783 Sun 22-May-22 22:15:32

It can’t be just gransnetters can it but over 62,000 signatures now.

Keep spreading the word. There are better ways to save taxpayers’ money than by cutting staff costs in childcare. Hasn’t enough been ‘saved’ by cutting Sure Start funding? Oh no that’s actually not been cost effective, let alone safe
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sure_Start

AGAA4 another terrible loss.

grannypiper Sun 22-May-22 19:44:15

GPLady so sorry to hear about your lovely Oliver.

Lucca Sun 22-May-22 19:29:46

Absolutely signed.

Iam64 Sun 22-May-22 18:22:37

Glorianny, I bet you remember the last time a conservative government suggested reducing the staff - infant ratio. The suggestion then was that an early years worker with a degree could care for more infants than one who wasn’t educated to degree level. Like somehow, having a degree meant you could supervise 3 toddlers while changing the nappy of a 4th
It’s infuriating

AGAA4 Sun 22-May-22 15:09:04

So sorry GPlady. A baby died at the nursery my grandson went to last week. The staff didn't act in time so increasing ratios is completely wrong. Will sign now.

Cs783 Sun 22-May-22 14:29:16

I agree Gloriannie the govt response isn’t good - looks like taking a chance to level down AND failing to level up. If I understand the current regulations:

Scotland 2 year olds 1:3, England 1:4
BUT
Scotland 3+ year olds 1:8. England 1:13

Watch out for diminishing provision for 3 year olds next …

NannyJan53 Wed 18-May-22 11:57:39

Signed! So very sorry for the loss of your gorgeous little boy. Heart breaking.

Glorianny Wed 18-May-22 11:49:23

A response form the Government today- It doesn't look good.
We will consult in the summer on moving to the Scottish ratios for two-year-olds, from a ratio of 1:4 to 1:5. We will engage fully with the sector and parents/carers on this proposed change.

The Government will consult in the summer on moving to the Scottish ratios for two-year-olds, from a ratio of 1:4 (one adult to four children) to 1:5 (one adult to five children). Throughout this consultation process, we will engage fully with the sector and parents/carers on this proposed change. Our priority continues to be to provide safe, high quality early years provision for our youngest children.

This change would align the English system to that of Scotland. We are proposing to move to the Scottish ratios for 2-year-olds on the basis that Scotland has a similar childcare system to England, we have no evidence to suggest that the Scottish model is unsafe, and evidence shows high parental satisfaction rates. England’s statutory minimum staff to child ratios for 2-year-olds are among the highest in Europe.

Whilst these proposed changes to ratios would amend the existing statutory minimum requirements, providers would continue to be able to staff above these minimum requirements if that is their preference. These changes would hand greater autonomy to settings to exercise professional judgement in the way in which they staff their settings, according to the needs of their children, and help as many families as possible benefit from affordable, flexible, quality childcare.

The safety and quality of early years provision is of utmost importance to the Government. All early years providers are legally required to keep children safe and promote their welfare. The Early Years Foundation Stage statutory framework (EYFS) [https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/974907/EYFS_framework_-_March_2021.pdf] sets the standards and requirements that all early years providers must follow to ensure all children have the best start in life, including requirements for the ratios of staff to children.

This also includes safeguarding and welfare requirements such as the paediatric first aid requirement (PFA), where at least one person who has a current PFA certificate must be on the premises and available at all times when children are present. Early Years providers must ensure that people looking after children are suitable to fulfil the requirements of their role and providers must train all staff to understand their safeguarding policy and procedures. These, along with the other requirements within the EYFS, are designed to help early years providers create high quality settings which are welcoming, safe and stimulating, and where children are able to enjoy learning and grow in confidence.

The Government recognises that the cost of living and the cost of childcare is a concern for people. The Department for Education is working across government to support families with their childcare bills through 15 hours free childcare for eligible 2-year-olds, 30 hours free childcare for 3–4-year-olds, Tax Free Childcare and Universal Credit. We have spent over £3.5bn in each of the past three years on our early education entitlements and the Government is committed to continuing to look for ways to improve the cost, choice, and availability of childcare and early education. Furthermore, at Spending Review (SR) ‘21 we announced additional funding of £160m in 2022-23, £180m in 2023-24 and £170m in 2024-25, compared to the 2021-22 financial year. This is for Local Authorities to increase hourly rates paid to childcare providers and reflects cost pressures and changes in the number of eligible children anticipated at the time of the SR.

DiamondLily Sun 15-May-22 10:18:42

Sorry for your loss. flowers

SunshineSally Fri 13-May-22 21:51:47

Signed and shared/tweeted.
So very sorry ?
Heartfelt hugs to you all xx

Nanna58 Fri 13-May-22 17:14:07

Signed. Much love to you all x

Antonia Fri 13-May-22 17:07:40

Signed. I was sad to read about your grandson, he was such a beautiful boy. xx

Glorianny Fri 13-May-22 12:37:48

Brilliant! Let's keep bumping this. If you haven't signed please do it and share on facebook or other places.

Cs783 Fri 13-May-22 11:58:13

This was over 20,000 signatures (I think) when I signed. Now nearly 55,000. We’ll done gransnetters and others; here’s hoping it gets to the key 100,000 point.

Bungle Sat 07-May-22 13:25:22

So very sorry. Petition signed. Xx

Nacky Sat 07-May-22 08:40:16

You poor soul, I am so sorry and admire your bravery in campaigning on this important issue.
It is so wrong to reduce the ratio of carers to children and I support any efforts to stop that happening.

Hetty58 Sat 07-May-22 08:24:48

Signed! It's ridiculous to suggest fewer staff - when it should be more. I'm so sorry for your loss.

Froglady Sat 07-May-22 08:18:12

I don't know if you know this but there is an organisation called 38 Degrees which put up petitions online - might be an idea to see if they can assist you with this much needed petition.

Katyj Sat 07-May-22 08:14:20

Signed ? So sorry for your loss.