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Trump as US president might be useful

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thatbags Mon 06-Jun-16 07:04:20

I've just read an excellent aricle in Quillette about the hypothetical good that could come out of a Trump presidency, scary though that prospect is. The authors argue that US politics (Republican Party in particular) is in such a mess that having such a one as Trump as president would have the effect of starkly illuminating US political "cancers" of the far right and the far left and could provide a kind of "rough medicine".

It is a thought provoking essay.

There is no good case for Trump but this is the best there is by James Lindsay and Peter Boghossian.

If anyone wants to know who James Lindsay and Peter Boghossian are, here is my answer: they are the people who wrote this article. #WhatNotWho. And Google is your friend.

Anya Wed 08-Jun-16 07:39:51

I read that too bags but wouldn't he just replace them with those who'd 'follow orders'?

thatbags Wed 08-Jun-16 07:59:43

Hadn't thought of that possibility, anya. Hmm... next thought is miltary coup! Bloody hell!

practical Wed 08-Jun-16 10:30:35

He can't be worse than the warmonger clinton

Rhinestone Wed 08-Jun-16 10:53:25

I became an Independent because I realized that I wasn't going to vote for a party just because I was a Democrat or Republican. This wasn't high school where you vote for the best looking or coolest person.. This is real life. I vote for who I think will do the best job. Once the person becomes President you hope they do all they said in their campaigns. But unfortunately we have a system of checks and balances so the President doesn't get too powerful. Obama has been stopped at every turn by the republicans who did not like him. What's made many of us mad is that the congress is supposed to represent what the people want but that didn't happen. The egotistical self serving politicians did what " they" wanted instead. Many feel we are not a representative democracy anymore. IMO the republicans were rude to Obama from the beginning as I mentioned before. They didn't work together as a team. The people are tired of the whole game and I think that's why Sanders has been so popular.
It makes me crazy to think of all the mo eye spent on campaigning for a year when people all over the world are sick and starving. Obama put in universal healthcare but it didn't end up looking like the original bill he proposed. So now people are bad mouthing it not realizing that congress changed it.

Rhinestone Wed 08-Jun-16 11:01:36

As for Trump being a president we would be in trouble even if he used his advisors. I spent years teaching children to be respectful of others race and religions D not be a bully. Trump is a blowhard who is condescending to others and makes blatant racist statements. He is a bully and masogenistic in my opinion. He lies and says he never said what he is accused of yet there is video to prove the opposite. The only reason people will vote for him is that he's not a democrat and he says what people want to hear. But he used to be one and even gave money to Hillary's last campaign.

practical Wed 08-Jun-16 11:29:36

The only contact I have in the USA wants Trump because she hates Clinton so much but her sister wants Clinton so I guess it's hard to pick if you don't live in a country.

obieone Wed 08-Jun-16 21:19:46

I think people like Trump give money to most if not all campaigns, so that they have some leverage with whoever wins. Can they be a member of different parties too Rhinestone?

So people are fed up of the checks and balances. Sometimes it is hard to change a whole system.

Rhinestone Wed 15-Jun-16 12:59:28

What bugs me is that people vote depending on who looks the best, talks the loudest, etc. It's so elementary school. Many in the states don't want Clinton for good reason but to vote for someone just because you don't like the other candidate is not the right thing to do either. We really need a third party candidate but our system is really not set up to do that. Even those in Trumps party say they don't like him but will vote for their party. To me that is ridiculous. You vote for who will do the best job for the country. This is not supposed to be about you, it's supposed to be about the country. Just a Yankee's thought here.

obieone Wed 15-Jun-16 13:11:07

But there were many candidates in the beginning[especially on the Trump side] so many, I cant even remember exactly how many there were.

whitewave Wed 15-Jun-16 13:25:27

He is a mysoginist so not sure how any female can vote for him.
No black, Hispanic will vote for him.
But he will get the red neck vote. Apparently he is guaranteed certain states, and will only need 4 on top of those to win?