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Ok, we are out, what now?

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Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 07:49:53

The vote is in, we are to leave the EU. Deep breath, everyone, a new start begins today.

What needs to be done now? No recriminations allowed, no ranting, please. Constructive ideas only for what steps we should take now - we meaning the government, the legal bods, the negotiators, the banks, large and small busineeses, social departments, and orfinary people?

Bear in mind that it will take two years to settle the divorce details, then we have to begin creating a new relationship with the single market of the EU, if we are to buy and sell anything with them, after which new partners might will want to negotiate deals with us. Time scale unknown, but likely to take years. They could be lean years, our credit rating has gone down instantly, and our £ notes won't buy as much abroad at the moment. Better get a taste for British-grown food.

Meanwhile through and after the divorce we have to feed the children (without any alimony, just on our own efforts, and without the inlaws helping us to get orders any more)

The au pairs and the chars will soon go home, which means we'll have to do things ourselves which we used to let them do - look after our aged relations, nurse us after operations, and so on. On the plus side, that should mean we will be needed in those jobs, if we want them.

whitewave Fri 24-Jun-16 08:24:22

By all means try to be optimistic, but in being so it would be foolish to ignore what will clearly be major problems over the next months/years

Anniebach Fri 24-Jun-16 08:24:58

So Cameron is standing down, this year , Boris must be so elated

Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 08:25:27

This is what coalitions are for - people with differing political views working together for the common good, without point-scoring. Include all sides, and come to a consensus.

Anniebach But are that pair likely or able to fix it or will they do something worse? They could just keep digging and get us into a deeper hole which is impossible to climb out of?

Sorry Anya - that was a typo, I was actually thinking Anya as I typed.

Elrel Fri 24-Jun-16 08:25:28

New pm - October

durhamjen Fri 24-Jun-16 08:25:31

It's alright saying on here we need the best brains for the job. However, the Brexiters said they distrusted the experts.

Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 08:27:14

First move, then - find a good new PM.

durhamjen Fri 24-Jun-16 08:27:19

That's what the people voted for, elegran, Boris and Gove.

suzied Fri 24-Jun-16 08:28:38

Can I get an Irish passport if I have an Irish grandparent?

daphnedill Fri 24-Jun-16 08:29:42

Let them sort it out! Let's see them putting money into the NHS and doing all the things they promised. It won't take people long to see they've been duped.

Anya Fri 24-Jun-16 08:30:19

PRINTMISS well said.

Yes, the best brains from both sides of the debate and let's have input from industry too.

CelticRose Fri 24-Jun-16 08:30:22

J52 What mortgages? Where is the housing to get a mortgage on?

Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 08:30:36

One who can recognise genuine experts to pick their brains, work out a good route forward, and get over to the grass-roots that what the best brains advise is the way to go. The getting things over to the public is a big part of the task. We no longer automatically trust our leaders to get on with the job for us.

whitewave Fri 24-Jun-16 08:31:22

They have a massive amount to do - I hope they are capable. Oh God!!!

daphnedill Fri 24-Jun-16 08:31:58

Elegran, We can't strike any new deals with EU countries until we've extricated ourselves from the existing deals.

So how are any new deals going to be BETTER than the existing deals? That's what people have voted for.

Jane10 Fri 24-Jun-16 08:32:15

Sorry I absolutely cannot just take a deep breath and recover from this so immediately. What do you expect us to say when we're so clearly up shit creek without a paddle? Just look at the value of the pound and the massive plunge in the markets. The turkeys have voted for Christmas and it'll be a pretty thin one all round.

durhamjen Fri 24-Jun-16 08:32:42

But they do not like experts, elegran.

CelticRose, builders have lost 40% on the stock exchange, so even fewer houses from now on. They'll hang onto the land until the stock market rises again.

Anya Fri 24-Jun-16 08:32:52

There are other threads for venting on.

I think Elegran has shown herself to be a positive thinker by saying 'OK, that's what's been decided, so what's the best way forward'

durhamjen Fri 24-Jun-16 08:34:13

Daniel Hannan said that there will be no immediate £350 million a week. He'll still have his job for years.

whitewave Fri 24-Jun-16 08:34:38

Watch the ECB move in on our Financial Services now

daphnedill Fri 24-Jun-16 08:35:15

Look on the bright side, whitewave. The British government is going to have to employ THOUSANDS of negotiators, lawyers and administrators. There will be enough work for them for at least a decade - and then we'll have to replace all the EU agencies which were doing work for the UK, so that will keep the bureaucrats in work for ages! Errrmmm! Shame there won't be enough money to pay them and give money to the NHS, etc.

harrigran Fri 24-Jun-16 08:35:22

Cameron has resigned.

daphnedill Fri 24-Jun-16 08:36:16

OK! Apologies! So what is positive about leaving the EU? How will it improve our lives?

Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 08:38:25

Jane10 Give it a few days and the pound will settle a bit, same with the stock exchange. They are up and down like a tart's drawers with every upset. It won't be instant, and it will take longer to return to where it was, but if we are seen to be acting positively confidence will return.

DD We can't strike any new deals, but we can put out feelers and set up skeleton deals to be fleshed out later. The sooner we do that the better. The worst thing we can do is look as though we have been wiped out by the change in direction. Keep taking constructive action and something will be built!

Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 08:40:04

DD It will not wreck our lives if we decide it is damn well not going to.

Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 08:41:50

DD Maybe the careers to encourage our grandchildren into are negotiators, lawyers and administrators!