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On the subject of racism.

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Tegan Wed 20-Jul-16 12:32:01

A while back I mentioned how many racist comments I used to hear from people when I was at work but couldn't give any specific examples as it had all been a few years ago. I just wanted to mention this; more to get it off my chest really because I'm so angry about it. The S.O. was working on his front garden yesterday. His neighbour has a rose bush that's going a bit rampant and the roses are overhanging the fence. Another neighbour walked past, pushed the rose branch out of the way, turned to the S.O. and said 'bloody foreigners'. He was so taken aback he couldn't think of a good reply. The foreigner in question gets up early for work each day, comes back quite late and travels the world with his job. He's also a talented musician and an all round good guy. As far as I know the neighbour who complained has a family that, to my knowledge, have contributed nothing to society; in fact there are things about them that I daren't mention on a public forum. This is the sort of thing I overheard at work time and time again. It saddens me so much. I still maintain that brexit has fuelled this even more.

Washerwoman Thu 21-Jul-16 13:56:53

Well said Maddyone.Surely it's the Referendum on the whole plus other events in Europe that have thrown all the balls in the air,stirred up feelings -some racist and abhorrent- but my view is that had the vote been Remain the far right agitators would equally so have smashed in some windows,peddled racist filth and used it as an excuse to sound off.
My daughter, who voted remain,as did the majority of her 20 something friends8- but not all - has been shocked and by the patronising lecturing and berating on her social media group of those that voted Leave.She said to me mum how dare they.Would they continually try to convert someone to their religious convictions,or disrespect their faith.One of her friends is fundraising for refugee camps and organising an event.She posted the query should she hold it up north in her home town where family and friends are,or down south where she works..Back came a reply not up north ,they all hate immigrants.And that from a university graduate.so bigotry is alive in all sorts of areas .
I still like to believe vote Remain or Leave the vast majority of this country is fair minded and tolerant.And living in a large town with one of the highest immigrant populations from both the first wave of Commonwealth immigration,to recent Syrian refugees I
have witnessed countless acts of friendship and co-operation between different faiths ethnicities over the years.just wish those got reported and applauded more.

granjura Thu 21-Jul-16 19:38:36

I've read your post several times and I think the comparison just doesn't make sense. Someone's religion is quite a private matter and doesn't generally affect the lives of those around. Coming out of the EU though, will affect all deeply including the 48%.

When some of the Leave arguments are clearly flawed or racist, then it is fair enough to say so (like some of the examples given in videos- saying he voted LEAVE to get rid of Muslims, or another saying he wants 'no Muslamic here- and wants British for the British' - etc.

durhamjen Thu 21-Jul-16 23:46:45

Ridiculous thing for that friend to say, Washerwoman. Both my sons partners are immigrants and live up NORTH, as I do. We don't all hate immigrants.

Granjura, heard someone say today that Eurosceptics have been complaining for 41 years, yet they expect us, the 48%, to have got over it already.

Elrel Fri 22-Jul-16 00:48:55

Stansgran - sadly knives are carried all too often these days and I guess if an innocent sounding water fight gets too big and out of control someone will draw one. However in the late 1950s one evening after leaving a coffee bar in Birmingham my bf and I were threatened by a knife carrying teddy boy. He'd been swinging a bottle on a string from a light fitting in the coffee bar basement and bf had untied the bottle. Bf stayed calm, I burst into tears at the sight of the knife and teddy boy strolled off. He must have thought his humiliation in front of his mates had been revenged.
Sad to have a GC who at 10 realised their mother is racist and became resigned to it.