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Theresa May

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Ankers Sun 15-Jan-17 17:02:45

I cant find a thread about her. Perhaps I have missed it?

I do not understand much about her at all.

I dont understand her position on Brexit. She voted against it, and now seems to be going for hard Brexit.

I am not sure what she has done politically since being in office, but I may just be out of the loop on that one.

And I dont really understand her character at all. Again, I could just be out of the loop. And maybe it is not necessary to understand her character.
But see above. So I would like to try and understand.

Can gransnetters enlighten me if they want to please?

Ana Sun 15-Jan-17 17:06:04

www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1231186-Theresa-May-3

I'm surprised you couldn't find this, Ankers, you seem to be very good at trawling through old GN threads...

Ankers Sun 15-Jan-17 17:08:15

Thanks for finding that Ana. I will have a long read, and post onto it if applicable.
This thread can then end.

Ankers Sun 15-Jan-17 17:19:18

A quick read didnt really answer much in the op I dont think.

The op of the other one seems to say that her position and stance seem to stem from The Daily Mail. Maybe so. That seems unlikely, but as good a guess as any perhaps.

Ankers Thu 16-Mar-17 13:22:17

Resurrected in the interest of political fairness.

Ana Thu 16-Mar-17 13:26:15

Why?

Is there a thread entitled 'Jeremy Corbyn' or 'Tim Farron'? confused

If you want to read criticism of Theresa May, you only have to look at 'The tory way of governance' and/or any thread related to Brexit.

Ankers Thu 16-Mar-17 13:31:17

Why not Ana? Are you frightened?

I dont understand her. I would like to understand more.

Ankers Thu 16-Mar-17 13:33:02

She is after all, the leader of this country.

Ana Thu 16-Mar-17 13:35:34

Ooh yes, I'm really frightened...grin (Why? confused)

I'm pretty sure no one on GN knows TM in real life so you're not likely to get a correct, in-depth analysis of her personality...

Ankers Thu 16-Mar-17 13:39:15

Ok. Lets start with
How does someone vote for Leave, and then want Hard Brexit?

angelab Thu 16-Mar-17 14:20:35

Ankers, my impression is that she kept pretty quiet during the campaigning, so that she could step in as leadership contender having not conspicuously nailed her colours to the mast..

nina1959 Thu 16-Mar-17 14:29:08

She's been handed a raw deal left over from David Cameron. He called the referendum and people voted to leave. She's now got to take the reins and continue to do the job Cameron started.
I like her. She's unshowy, intelligent and the fact that we don't see much of her suggests she's a good behind the scenes operator.
She handled Trump in a very clever manner, reciting to the crowd what had been agreed and then turning to him so that he couldn't later disagree with their discussion.
She's a traditionalist and although her stance on the EU wasn't clear, she now appears to want to take the country forwards according to the wishes of the voters who wanted Brexit.

Ankers Thu 16-Mar-17 14:38:30

nina1959. Thanks. I think you have answered my second question of the op.
She does seem unshowy, which nowadays at least, seems unusual for a PM.
I think though, that ironically is why I am yet to feel comfortable about her. Like you say, we dont see much of her.

angelab. I have more of a problem with this bit. But I am not a politician, so I presume there may be quite a lot of times when they just have to toe the party line. And keep quiet.

3rd question[there are probably 4]. Who is she really? Remain, Soft Brexit or Hard Brexit?

nina1959 Thu 16-Mar-17 15:09:28

She did get thrown in at the deep end. Last year was a surprise to us all. I think she's passionate about the credibility of her party. That's why she's told Phillip Hammond to drop the self employed NICS, it went against party policy. I'm self employed and we don't get the benefits an employed person receives so unless the government were going to give me, holiday pay, sick pay, maternity leave and a pension fund, it wasn't ever going to be fair.
Obviously MP's thought it was wrong and she listened so this suggests she's loyal to her own party and also she's loyal to the voters.
I believe she has a very steely, tough side but probably keeps it in reserve preferring to be civil first but I don't think she'll take any flak from setting out the demands to the EU.
Tough job, all we can do is get behind her. I think her mind is on Brexit soft or hard, I think she'll do it.

Beammeupscottie Thu 16-Mar-17 15:23:49

At the end of the day, would you want Jeremy Corbyn of the Momentum Party Negotiating with the EU. Thought not.

Ankers Thu 16-Mar-17 15:25:00

With that particular issue, what I cant understand is why it wasnt stopped before it got into the budget. It never fitted core tory policy.
I wonder how strong she is around the cabinet table.

Ankers Thu 16-Mar-17 15:25:56

Beam no. But that does mean the tories will get my vote either[they didnt last time].

Ankers Thu 16-Mar-17 15:26:05

doesnt

Ginny42 Thu 16-Mar-17 15:45:06

She hardly got thrown in at the deep end Nina. She hung around getting changed in the changing rooms whilst others were out and about debating the issues, then at the last minute she was on the diving board and in she dived! She'd changed her persuasion from what a disaster it would be to leave the EU, to follow me everyone into the deep end!

She had got what she wanted. The key to No 10. She knew what she was doing, and she's still unelected and leading us into a hard Brexit with no alternative plan should she fail.

Beammeupscottie Thu 16-Mar-17 15:45:45

Fair enough Ankers. It is your right. But at the moment I think the Country should rally round the elected Government to get us through Brexit. It is only fair. May is doing what the Country asked her to do.

Ginny42 Thu 16-Mar-17 15:49:42

Am I being too cynical thinking that the NIC increase was part of a plan? Hammond was to appear to ignore a manifesto pledge and when we were all up in arms, TM would retract it to show how caring they are and that they listen to us, the people. Was it all stage-managed and Hammond knew all along he was to be the scapegoat?

Don't be silly Ginny.

Ankers Thu 16-Mar-17 15:52:36

I dont believe she is unelected Ginny42. Thems the rules. I shouldnt think she is the only Prime Minister who got to number 10 without winning an election.

Beam. Fair enough to you too.

nina1959 Thu 16-Mar-17 16:01:32

Ginny42, David Cameron wasn't expecting to lose the referendum or step down as PM so I think TM probably did land the job as a surprise.

suzied Thu 16-Mar-17 16:02:45

They be shown themselves to be incompetent in the budget c*ckup, doesn't bode well for the future. Though there's no
Opposition apart from Nicola Sturgeon, so they aren't worried, they'll just follow the Daily hateMail. All these people saying we should rally round as if it's wartime are out of touch with the reality of politics.

whitewave Thu 16-Mar-17 16:07:51

The rumours are that she is very difficult in cabinet and not easy to have a discussion with. She is also paying far too much attention to the press, although we know she visited the media moguls just after she became PM, so I guess she is toeing the line. Good ain't it?!