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Brexit scuppers Capital of Culture

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tanith Thu 23-Nov-17 17:02:37

This is such a shame for the 5 cities bidding after all the hard work they've done to enter.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42097692

MaizieD Thu 23-Nov-17 19:58:44

Actually, the European award was, I thought, called the European Capital of Culture, not City.

It is, Jalima, but I didn't want to confuse people.

Jalima1108 Thu 23-Nov-17 19:59:29

H ha!!

Jalima1108 Thu 23-Nov-17 19:59:44

sorry, confusing post

Ha Ha!

varian Thu 23-Nov-17 20:05:30

I did hear someone say, on the day after the referendum, that he didn't know anything about the EU, but he watched the Eurovision song contest and these foreigners didn't vote for us, so he voted to leave.

Tegan2 Thu 23-Nov-17 20:25:00

Someone's brother, who works for Nissan, voted leave saying 'that's one in the eye for Cameron'#shootingoneselfinthefoot

mcem Thu 23-Nov-17 20:53:31

Well, disappointingly, Dundee missed out to Hull for UK City of Culture but they've made the most of it and good luck to them.
Because of Brexit we now miss out on European City of Culture.
I'm horrified at the insular expressions of ignorance expressed here.
Philistines presumably won't be visiting the new V&A when it opens next year.
Another illustration of how Scotland wants to broaden horizons instead of putting up barriers.

tanith Thu 23-Nov-17 21:00:59

Whatever the rights or wrongs of people's choice I still think it's a damn shame we're going to be excluded from various endeavours .

lemongrove Thu 23-Nov-17 21:51:50

Some people are easily horrified on GN.

I think we all know of people who may have voted for odd reasons on both sides

The UK capital of culture is just fine.

mcem Thu 23-Nov-17 22:28:46

Incomprehensible post !

maryeliza54 Thu 23-Nov-17 22:31:48

I think I’ll just go and have a rest?

lemongrove Thu 23-Nov-17 22:32:50

Why?
It was you that said you were horrified (OTT)

Others gave examples of odd reasons for leaving the EU

If we have, as we do, the UK capital of culture, we don’t need
A European city of culture.

POGS Fri 24-Nov-17 00:07:43

Question or pre conceived view of negotiations from the EU side.

From the OP :-

" According to the rules adopted by the European Parliament and the Council (Decision 445/2014), this action is not open to third countries except candidate countries and European Free Trade Association/European Economic Area countries "

Has the European Commission/Parliament not made a statement regarding negotiations and given a nod to the fact there will be no Free Trade between the UK and EU forthcoming hence they have made a declaration before negotiations have taken it's course ?

suzied Fri 24-Nov-17 02:30:30

One of this years’ European Capital if Culture is Paphos in Cyprus. Very lovely it is too and well worth a visit.

maryeliza54 Fri 24-Nov-17 08:03:36

I thought we had said no EFTA or EEA deal? Everyone knows what we want - all the benefits of the trade deal we have now within the EU with none of the obligations of membership. What’s not to like? I still can’t understand why the pesky EU won’t give us that. SOOO unfair

Cold Sat 25-Nov-17 15:16:21

I think it's hilarious with the faux outrage! The UK government has made it clear that they are pursuing a hard Brexit so why they thought they would be eligible for a competition in 2023 that is restricted to EU, EEA and EU applicants is totally beyond me.

I feel sorry for some of the UK cities that have wasted money but they were obviously mislead by their own government. Many of the leave campaigners, included some cabinet members, campaigned on the basis that Britain would remain in the European trade area without being full EU members - this would have made the cities eligible. However once the May government announced plans for for a hard Brexit it was clear that they were not eligible anymore.

By the way I assume that the comments on Eurovision are tongue-in-cheek as people must know that the Eurovision network has nothing to do with the EU. Britain was winning the song contest long before it joined the EEC/EU

Jalima1108 Sat 25-Nov-17 15:18:32

By the way I assume that the comments on Eurovision are tongue-in-cheek as people must know that the Eurovision network has nothing to do with the EU. Britain was winning the song contest long before it joined the EEC/EU
Surely you didn't think that posters were SERIOUS!
LOL

lemongrove Sat 25-Nov-17 19:21:37

tchgrin

MargaretX Sat 25-Nov-17 21:19:37

Well out is out and you will have to get used to it. Food will be dearer. I was in the uk again and came home a week ago. I was surprised at the price of food and believe this will get worse.
MBarnier may be able to derail the plans as the question of Ireland is impossible to solve.

I can't believe anyone still watches the EU song contest. Any singer who is popular wouldn't risk their reputation on it.

cold Who could ever have believed you could remain in a club, take all the advantages and not pay the fees. The same rules apply to the EU as to the local tennis or bowls club

Jalima1108 Sun 26-Nov-17 10:32:34

I do know people who watch it MargaretX - they have a Eurovision party and dress up in daft clothes and they do realise it has become a parody of itself.
We've never been invited (thank goodness).

nigglynellie Sun 26-Nov-17 10:59:12

MargaretX. As far as I'm concerned the sooner we've left this so called club the better. With hindsight, we should never have joined in the first place, but we believed our politicians and over the years were sold a pup. City of culture? We probably wouldn't have got it anyway so frankly who cares?! If we have to walk away without paying a penny piece because of Eire, so be it! Better than being constantly bullied and pushed about by the mandarins of the EU.

nigglynellie Sun 26-Nov-17 11:01:31

I thick you'll find that over the years we've more than paid our way in this arrogant, bullying 'club'!

Firecracker123 Sun 26-Nov-17 11:57:38

Well said Nigglynellie totally agree with you. Fed up with EU bullies holding us to ransom. I've not noticed food prices going up at all in fact prices of consumer goods have gone down in the run up to Christmas. I agree also we have the UK capital of culture so no need for EU one.

Day6 Sun 26-Nov-17 13:00:29

Well out is out and you will have to get used to it. Food will be dearer. I was in the uk again and came home a week ago. I was surprised at the price of food and believe this will get worse.

I have a friend who is resident in Spain and she says exactly the same thing. We go self catering in Europe every year and in Italy, France, Spain, Belgium, Germany and Croatia we have found no food prices drop of stay the same. Self catering on the continent (ie in European countries is very expensive.) It used to be cheap - we marvelled at cheap goods and wine in the supermarkets years ago. Now (and we are savvy shoppers and experienced self-caterers) it's often more expensive to supermarket shop on holiday in Europe than it is at home. We have noticed prices rising every year. Fact.

Here, I often use markets to save money, as do locals abroad. If you are blaming our exit from the EU for dearer food prices, I wonder what's going on in the EU for food prices to be rising on the continent too?

Day6 Sun 26-Nov-17 13:06:46

Firecracker and Nigglynellie, I am with you are as millions of others.

I will be glad when negotiations are over and I hope our Government stand firm and are not dictated to by EU authorities. Lots of taxpayers do NOT want us handing over an extortionate amount of money to Brussels just so they can tell us how we will proceeed in the future.

The good news is, at last people are seeing the EU as a desperate institution which needs our billions to balance their books. The more they get from us as a divorce payment, the less other member states have to pay. We are in a better bargaining position than Juncker. More and more politicians and economists are recognising this.
We should pay our dues, but no more.

Roll on the exit!

lemongrove Sun 26-Nov-17 13:08:34

Amen to that! tchsmile