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So no hope from Jeremy either?

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MawBroon Sun 23-Dec-18 07:57:09

It seems JC would still back Brexit even if another election brought him to power.
How to shoot yourself in the foot?
From The Guardian this weekend

Jeremy Corbyn is facing a storm of criticism from Labour activists and MPs after suggesting he would press ahead with Brexit if the party won a snap general election.
In a sign that he is losing backing among overwhelmingly pro-Remain Labour supporters, Corbyn was also accused of betraying the party membership by appearing reluctant to back the idea of supporting Remain in a second referendum
The first signs of a serious internal revolt from party members on the left, who helped propel him to the leadership, came after Corbyn gave an interview to the Guardian in which he suggested he thought Brexit should go ahead and said EU state-aid rules would prevent a Labour government intervening to support UK industries.

POGS Sun 23-Dec-18 22:15:52

Today is Sunday tomorrow he may say something different!

Anniebach Sun 23-Dec-18 22:28:12

He has delivered his Christmas message, The Good Samaritan!

maryeliza54 Mon 24-Dec-18 02:32:43

GG the 4 week holiday entitlement in the EU does not include bank holidays. The 28 days in the UK does include our bank holidays so we offer the minimum here and are not more generous

Iam64 Mon 24-Dec-18 08:18:27

Thanks maryeliza for clarifying the holiday issue. Same goes for pensions and other so called benefits, the minimum is offered here. It's yet another reason to Remain.

Anniebach Mon 24-Dec-18 08:23:27

Thank you maryeliza , I knew the 28 days Included the bank holidays, I do the wages for my brother’s firm, I didn’t know about the EU countries

Chewbacca Mon 24-Dec-18 09:22:29

The UK has the 2nd lowest number of bank holidays within the EU. We get 8 bank holidays per year, plus a minimum of 20 days paid holiday.
In Finland, they get a minimum of 20 days paid holiday, plus 15 bank holidays per year.
Spain has 20 days minimum holiday, plus 14 bank holidays per year.
Austria has 20 days minimum holiday plus 12 bank holidays.
All of the others have 11 days paid bank holidays per year, plus a minimum of 20 days holidays.
Only Hungary, the Netherlands and the UK have as few as 8.

MaizieD Mon 24-Dec-18 09:36:55

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_by_country

Paid leave entitlements for every country in the world!

Interesting that the UK's is among the least generous in the EU.

I thought that the EU controlled everything we do and didn't allow us to make our own laws. So why is every EU country different?

MaizieD Mon 24-Dec-18 09:38:03

X posted, Chewie

varian Sat 29-Dec-18 18:07:08

Labour will fall behind the Liberal Democrats if Jeremy Corbyn helps Theresa May secure a Brexit deal, according to the latest YouGov poll.

The new survey shows Labour would slump to third place, on 22 per cent behind the Liberal Democrats on 26 per cent, should the party support the Conservatives in pushing a deal through parliament.

The poll, commissioned by the People’s Vote campaign, suggests millions of young people could desert the party over the issue. Labour’s support among 18 to 29-year-olds would be halved from 60 per cent to just 33 per cent if the party backs a compromise deal to leave the EU.

Those who voted for Mr Corbyn’s party at last year’s general election and also voted Remain in 2016 said they are more likely to switch to the Lib Dems (49 per cent) than vote Labour (41 per cent) at the next election.

The survey suggests there is little downside to Labour backing a second referendum. Among Labour supporters another vote is massively popular, with 77 per cent in favour and just 23 per cent against.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-labour-lib-dems-jeremy-corbyn-tory-deal-poll-yougov-a8685786.html

Iam64 Sat 29-Dec-18 18:21:52

I hadn't seen the Independent , so thanks varian. Will Jeremy think on???

Anniebach Sat 29-Dec-18 18:27:12

Jeremy will follow votes

M0nica Sun 30-Dec-18 23:46:43

According to the Emily Thornberry, the reason Jeremy Corbyn did not deal effectively with anti-Semitism was because he was too upset by it.

Good to know that if he becomes PM we will take such a tender heart to (not) deal with difficult problems: Novichok, The murder of Khashoggi, immigrants in the English Channel. These issues will no doubt upset him so much that he willbe unable to function.

Trump and Putin will eat him as a cocktail canape.

Jalima1108 Sun 30-Dec-18 23:49:35

grin
a frightening prospect

Anniebach Mon 31-Dec-18 08:13:17

Good grief, too upset ? No, angry he had been exposed as an anti Semite .

sodapop Mon 31-Dec-18 08:41:14

That's exactly it Anniebach pathetic .

varian Fri 04-Jan-19 19:06:42

If this brexit nonsense is allowed to go ahead, I and many others, will blame Corbyn just as much as TM. We have been so badly let down by the leaders of our two biggest parties who seem to care nothing for the best interests of the UK.

varian Sun 06-Jan-19 13:15:42

If Corbyn backs Brexit, he faces electoral catastrophe

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/05/brexit-corbyn-electoral-catastrophe-yougov-poll

Jabberwok Sun 06-Jan-19 15:03:41

I don't support JC one tiny bit, BUT, having been a eurosceptic ALL his political life, how on earth can he now radically change his opinion without the being seen to be the most blatant hypocritical vote catching turncoat that ever entered political life?!!! Who on earth is ever going to believe that this late, sudden conversation is anything other than a self serving sham?! How on earth would you believe future equally deeply held convictions?! Whose to say that having won an election on a lie, he wouldn't immediately change his mind -again!!

Anniebach Sun 06-Jan-19 15:41:19

He can change easily, this is the great leader who went on holiday during the referendum debates. He will go the way of the most votes .

Devorgilla Sun 06-Jan-19 16:02:38

There is an article by Andrew Rawnsley in today's Observer on just this issue. JC made much of giving control back to the members. They want a second vote.

Anniebach Sun 06-Jan-19 17:18:55

I think you gov polled 25,000 , party membership is 124,000 so only a quarter were asked , this will put him in a tizz

varian Sun 06-Jan-19 19:14:12

Less than a quarter of LP members were asked, but this exceptionally large poll was a representative selection of the UK populations.

Polling is a well developed science and most opinion polls are based on samples of 1000 or thereabouts so have a larger margin of error. This poll of 25,000 i s a much more accurate reflection of the views of British voters.

Anniebach Sun 06-Jan-19 19:30:26

The poll was labour members not the entire British voters

varian Sun 06-Jan-19 19:36:15

I think we may be referring to different polls, Annie but it is clear that most LP members want to remain in the EU, as do most LP MPs and most LP voters.

The same is true of the majority of the UK population now so the current "will of the people" is without a doubt to remain in the EU. That is why the leavers oppose a Peoples Vote on Theresa May's Withdrawl Agreement.

Anniebach Sun 06-Jan-19 19:42:33

The poll carried out by you gov , 25,000 were asked, there are 124,000 labour members , it cannot be claimed the majority of labour members want to remain